The Saxe-Coburg, desd. of Prince Ferdinand and Antonia Kohary

[Norbert]

Sorry, I think I have crossed our wires. I did not mean monies with "fortune" but prestige .

[Norbert]

Hi Arturo, I have a note that Orleans was being treated in a london clinic in 1925 for "wild deliriums". Sadly I havn't noted the reference but I suspect it came from Royalty Digest. I love the idea of his nick-name "prince mess-tin" don't you? I am intrigued with your statement that Marie Dorothee was impossible can you tell us more please/

[Eurohistory]

I have to check on this...he had heart trouble, increased by the excessive smoking that he and so many of his contemporaries were known for.

Arturo Beéche

[Eric_Lowe]

Yes...so mant royals died of smoking. It is only now that they start banning smoking. 

[Norbert]

Hi Arturo, I have a note that Orleans was being treated in a london clinic in 1925 for "wild deliriums". Sadly I havn't noted the reference but I suspect it came from Royalty Digest. I love the idea of his nick-name "prince mess-tin" don't you? I am intrigued with your statement that Marie Dorothee was impossible can you tell us more please/

Obviously not

[erzsi]

Hi,

I´m very intrested what happend to Louises daughter Dora,the only thinks i know is she was born 1881 and die 1969 and in her childhoot she spent a lot of time with her cousine AD Erzsi (daughter of stephanie of belgium and Rudolf crownprince of austria) and later she disliked her mother Louise because of her affair with Mattachich
 Can somebody tell me some facts from her life and send some Picture of her?
It would be very nice
thanks

[grandduchessella]

Not to scare off our newbies (or anyone else) but please check for pre-existing threads before starting new ones. Thanks. 

There's some info on Dora on her mother's thread

http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php/topic,4981.msg250463.html#msg250463

[Eurohistory]

Yes...so mant royals died of smoking. It is only now that they start banning smoking. 

And far too many continue to do it, sadly.

Arturo

[Eurohistory]

Hi Arturo, I have a note that Orleans was being treated in a london clinic in 1925 for "wild deliriums". Sadly I havn't noted the reference but I suspect it came from Royalty Digest. I love the idea of his nick-name "prince mess-tin" don't you? I am intrigued with your statement that Marie Dorothee was impossible can you tell us more please/

The marriage between Louis Philippe and Marie Dorothee was the machination of her grandmother, the former Princess Clementine d'Orléans...I think that soon enough it became clear to both groom and bride that their characters were too disparate.

She spent longer and longer times with her family in Hungary, while letting go of her responsibilities as wife of the French pretender in exile. Not even when Louis Philippe bought her her own yacht was she happy with this. I think that the bad marriage and the absence of children, for the couple did try to conceive, were far too much for them.

Marie Dorothee's demands upon separation were strident and at times beyond the means of her husband.

Arturo Beéche

[Eurohistory]

Poor Dora was really sacrificed because of her mother's behavior. Her engagement to Ernst Günther was organized behind her back and quickly so the family could get her away from Louise.

Much has been said about Ernst Günther, but there is just not much to share really about him in English, other than articles in various royalty magazines.

Last year I got a fantastic photo group photo of the wedding of Dora and Ernst Günther...lovely picture...but not  a happy occasion despite the surroundings.

Arturo Beéche

[grandduchessella]

Is it the one I have posted on the prior page? I love that photo--so much glitter.  I finally had managed to obtain a copy after losing out on ebay a gazillion times. 

[Eurohistory]

Courtney,

Yes it is...my copy of the photo is a large cabinet card about 15 X 11 inches or so...in excellent condition which I obtained from a descendant of one of the royal guests at the wedding. A lovely image!

Regards,

Arturo

[The Kohary Karis]

hello
was wandering weather anyone here is a kohary?
i am trying to track down precise last records of Kohary's
so i was wandering weather any of u could help me out.

[Marc]

Here is a genealogy of the Kohary family with Antonia being the last one:

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/hung/kohary.html

[The Kohary Karis]

thanks a lott
ive been having quite a bit of trouble tracking down reliable information
im probably just not that great a researcher.
my aunt has a family tree, but its hard trying to get ahold of her. ill be able to see wheather what ive got is accurate then.
thanks alott!
KK