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basilforever

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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2007, 03:16:37 AM »
A sad anniversary.

Long live the King indeed!

SSKENDER

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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #31 on: April 25, 2007, 11:17:15 AM »
It is very unfortunate to say that it is today some forty years to the day that the tanks motored in to Athens and seized the reigns of power!It is also of course the day that democracy was pillaged and the true organs of state were systematically destroyed.Some 5000 Greeks were arrested and the King left powerless and to order the nation to  defend itself from the evils within!

Long live The KING!

A very very very sad anniversary indeed!

Too bad though, that many of the media outlets in Greece, on the one hand denounce the Junta, and then go on to praise the
Junta as a good thing b/c it got rid of the monarchy................The hypocrisy of it all....

Long live our King!


Ilias_of_John

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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2007, 05:36:39 PM »
The reason why the media and the current goverment are critics of the monarchy is because they are the cureent holders of power & they dont want to give it up or share it with anyone! >:(

Ilias_of_John

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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2007, 12:55:38 AM »
Judging by this article and its sources Kissinger was directly involved in the Turkish invasion of Cyprus in 1974.
Well, we all know to what happened to Greece's constituitional Monarchy after that don't we?


http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Intelligence_officers_confirm_Kissinger_role_in_0626.html

SSKENDER

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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #34 on: June 27, 2007, 01:57:30 PM »
Well this is not new.  Everyone knows that the US and in particular, Kissinger, played a very heavy role in Turkey's invasion of the island.  We also know that the US threatened the Greek Government if it dared to repell the attack.  The junta's demise was basically a reaction to Greece's failure to go to war against Turkey to protect Cyprus.


gogm

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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #35 on: June 27, 2007, 10:53:35 PM »
Kissinger deserves to be blamed for many things, but the collapse of the Greek monarchy probably is one he is not guilty of. As I recall, the junta threw out the monarchy after King Constantine was involved in a counter coup.

I really thought Kissinger was involved in bringing the junta to power, sort of like Pinochet in Chile, not in deposing it.

Ilias_of_John

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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #36 on: June 28, 2007, 03:46:40 AM »
The Junta didn"t throw out the King,he ran for his life after the failed coup thinking they were going to arrest him and perhaps worse,Unfortunately he lacked sufficient military resources in Athens and used forces to the far north on the borders which were too far too make an effective contribution.
The last two comments indicate that Kissinger
 a) encouraged the rise of the Junta ie. an anti democrat  (I really thought Kissinger was involved in bringing the junta to power, sort of like Pinochet in Chile, not in deposing it.)
and b)
threatened the Junta and prevented them from defending their compatriots,(in particular, Kissinger, played a very heavy role in Turkey's invasion of the island.  We also know that the US threatened the Greek Government if it dared to repell the attack)
 
It would appear that he really was not much a friend to the Greeks,destroying demopcracy,
encouraging war etc,etc,
Wonder if he did it elsewhere as well?


gogm

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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2007, 01:32:15 AM »
I'm not sure about what he did in Greece, but he was anti-democratic in Chile and he was pals with the Shah of Iran. Kissinger persuaded the Carter administration to let the Shah come in to the US for medical care when the Carter administration was reluctant to. That's what triggered the hostage crisis that brought Reagan to power.

Kissinger was no friend of democracy!

Ilias_of_John

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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2007, 03:15:10 AM »
hold on!
wasn't he the secretary of stare of the world's "greatest" deamocracy?
the good old u.s of a?

SSKENDER

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« Reply #39 on: July 03, 2007, 10:58:22 AM »
I'm not sure about what he did in Greece, but he was anti-democratic in Chile and he was pals with the Shah of Iran. Kissinger persuaded the Carter administration to let the Shah come in to the US for medical care when the Carter administration was reluctant to. That's what triggered the hostage crisis that brought Reagan to power.

Kissinger was no friend of democracy!

Well considering that the Carter Administration did much to undermine the Shah, bring about his downfall, and lead up to the rogue state of Iran that exists today, I wouldn't blame this situation on Kissinger.

Regards

gogm

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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #40 on: July 03, 2007, 05:58:28 PM »
Carter tried to make a better world. He botched Iran, although the intense common interests the US and Iran share might have overcome the change in Iram had Kissinger not prevailed about the Shah. At least he tried. I can't say the same for Kissinger and others of his ilk. :o

SSKENDER

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« Reply #41 on: July 13, 2007, 02:34:22 PM »
Carter tried to make a better world. He botched Iran, although the intense common interests the US and Iran share might have overcome the change in Iram had Kissinger not prevailed about the Shah. At least he tried. I can't say the same for Kissinger and others of his ilk. :o

Yes but, with the Ayatollahs bringing in ideas of anti-West, anti-US, and anti-Israel, would never have made the US and the new regime in Iran compatible.

Regards

dmitri

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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #42 on: July 23, 2007, 06:44:11 PM »
Carter was a disaster from beginning to end and the world still lives with his incompetence. Iran was his greatest show of ineptitude.

dmitri

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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #43 on: July 23, 2007, 08:12:26 PM »
You are completely correct. They want to hold on to power no matter how odious the method. The overthrow of the Junta should have seen the return of the legitimate form of government and respect for the constitution. Instead what happened was the exact opposite. The illegal declaration of the republic was maintained and the King was not allowed to return to Greece. A referendum that was held lacking the usual democratic credibility confirmed their republic. It stunk to high heavens. The only one who has come out with any honour is King Constantine who has respected the wishes of the people.

dmitri

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Re: 1967 revolution & chances of reinstatement
« Reply #44 on: January 09, 2008, 10:37:06 AM »
Has anybody thought how very irksome the Greek Republic must find having to deal with Queen Sofia of Spain, a former Princess of Greece and Denmark? She is after all the only major Greek royal who still holds a position of power. She must be a constant reminder that Greece was once a successful monarchy.