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Re: the windors claim to the throne
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2006, 07:15:32 AM »
The heir in question is living in Australia. His name is Michael I believe. He is the descendant of Catherine Pole, Lady Salisbury's granddaughter, who married into the Hastings family.  ;)
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« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2006, 05:04:42 PM »
Thats amazing.  You would have though as effecient as Henry was in getting rid of opposition, that he would have let her live. But then again at that time i don't think he had an all to high opinion of Women especially after the lives of his Sisters Margaret and Mary....lol.. Thanks for the info
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Re: the windors claim to the throne
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2006, 07:54:06 AM »
No problem. I don't know when Catherine Pole was born but she died in 1576. Her great-uncle Edward, Earl of Warwick was the last surviving male line Plantagenet. Catherine married Francis Hastings, Earl of Huntingdon (himself a Plantagenet descendant, albeit the distant one) in 1532. She was an only child.
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Re: the windors claim to the throne
« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2006, 11:53:05 AM »
And have you realized that there isn't a single TRUE english royal family for ages ?

The "so-called" Windsors are of german ascendance, both from the Saxe-Coburg line (Pr.Albert) and the Hannoverian (Victoria).

(And the next king will be the son of a greek prince !! renamed Mountbatten of Hessian origins )

The german Hannoverian succeeded the scottish Stuarts who had succeeded the Welsh Tudors.

The Yorks and Lancasters were of course branches of the french Plantagenets counts of Anjou.

They came to the throne when the last male of the viking-Norman dynasty died.
In the middle there was the swift reign of Stephen count of Blois.

And before the Norman conquest with William I, the dynasties were Anglo-Saxon again of german origin.

Strange to think of the appeal of the british people to their "so british" sovereigns   ::) :o  :-/

Long Live the future king Joseph I Wenzel  ;D
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Re: the windors claim to the throne
« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2006, 02:18:36 PM »
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And have you realized that there isn't a single TRUE english royal family for ages ?

The "so-called" Windsors are of german ascendance, both from the Saxe-Coburg line (Pr.Albert) and the Hannoverian (Victoria).

(And the next king will be the son of a greek prince !! renamed Mountbatten of Hessian origins )

The german Hannoverian succeeded the scottish Stuarts who had succeeded the Welsh Tudors.

The Yorks and Lancasters were of course branches of the french Plantagenets counts of Anjou.

They came to the throne when the last male of the viking-Norman dynasty died.
In the middle there was the swift reign of Stephen count of Blois.

And before the Norman conquest with William I, the dynasties were Anglo-Saxon again of german origin.

Strange to think of the appeal of the british people to their "so british" sovereigns   ::) :o  :-/

Long Live the future king Joseph I Wenzel  ;D


Well yes, you are mostly right- but what is so strange about having a royal family of mixed blood?  I would think that every royal family (Japan excepted?) has a mixture of ethnicities in the royal blood- French, Greek (actually Danish!) and German in Spain, French in Sweden, Danish and English in Norway, German in Holland.  What's wrong with that?  As for the British royal family- whatever its origins- the Queen's "German" ancestors have lived in Britain for nearly 300 years- isn't that long enough to be considered native Britons?

My family has been in Canada for about 50 years- do I have to wait another 6 generations for my descendants to be "Canadian", or are the only Canadians ever to be the native aboriginals?

I have not a drop of British blood, but as a Canadian I am happy to have the Queen as the head of the Commonwealth to which my country belongs.
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Re: the windors claim to the throne
« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2006, 02:21:40 PM »
Very, very, very well put Jehan. Besides, there's nothing wrong with EII having Scottish blood (which she does on her mother's side!) since she's Queen of Great Britain not just England! ;)
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Re: the windors claim to the throne
« Reply #36 on: July 07, 2007, 12:19:20 PM »
That is all such nonsense. Parliament decided who should be Monarch. 
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Re: the windors claim to the throne
« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2007, 07:55:02 AM »
Was this not the Act of Settlement declaring Sophia, Electress of Hanover heir to the throne after the death of Anne?

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« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2007, 08:13:24 AM »
Yes sure was. Parliament will still decide if there is any problem. Parliament represents the people and The Queen sees herself as first servant of the people.
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