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discussion about orthodox religion #1
bluetoria:
--- Quote ---"in the eyes of Heidegger the eastern-orthodox confession was the correct Christian denomination because it has no metaphysics and it has no theology [in the Aristotelian sense], only practical spiritual assistance"
H.G. Gadamer
What do you think about this?
--- End quote ---
It seems a bit odd to me. There seems to be a lot of theology in Orthodoxy - it is the theology which separates Orthodoxy from Catholicism, isn't it? Maybe I am misunderstanding the quotation :-/ ?
Tsarfan:
I find this topic interesting and educational. It doesn't persuade me to any particular religious view -- in fact it differs fundamentally from my views on most points -- but I find it helpful to understand the religion that so influenced Nicholas and his policies. However, I have a question.
When people have posted their views of religion on other threads, such as "The Anti-Semitism of the Romanovs", they have come under attack if their views challenge traditional Church doctrine (be it Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, or Jewish). They are told that such posts are "offensive" and not legitimate subjects for this board.
Why is it appropriate to discuss birth control, saints, the need to involve priests (or Jesus) in one's life, etc., on this site, but not appropriate to discuss Church doctrine on other threads that touch on the royal family's beliefs?
I get the distinct impression that religious discussion is just fine on this board, as long as one has the "correct" view of religion. Is there a double-standard here?
Please do not misunderstand me. I am not arguing that this thread or its content is inappropriate. I am perfectly willing to read (or skip over) viewpoints that I don't share and even occasionally find offensive. I just wonder why some religious viewpoints are allowed to be discussed ad infinitum and others are taboo.
palimpsest:
Bluetoria
a quick answer [that will be followed by a long one];
-In the Egyptian Patericon someone says "It is better to remain silent [in your mind] than to speak theology!"
-in the Orthodox Church "theology", whenever you can say it is "used", it is ALWAYS linked with prayer and liturgics; you have the impression that "theology" [as such] is only a brief stop [needed because of an accident] in the continuous flow of the Liturgy, a medicine to someone who doesn't have a "correct" relation with prayer;
-it isn't easy to say what separates Eastern and Western Christianity, but I'll try to say it later on; but it's more about a different understanding of the nature of theology than theological differences as such;
Tsarfan
I understand both those who have odd interpretations of "religion" and the standard mistrust in them by the "classic" confessions. You must understand that people of an established "religion" find some questions "outrageous" not because they are narrow minded but because their "world" has a different cluster of "cares" [in no way better or worse than others, just different] that make certain "questions" sidetracking.
Generally speaking a "religion" should make you question more yourself and less the "establishment" [my opinion]. For me the "improvement" of the "establishment" has little to do with my "redemption" so I find it almost irrelevant. This doesn't mean that we shouldn't talk about all these issues.
Finelly:
I don't understand that answer......
palimpsest:
I presume you don't understand the answer on theology... another way of putting it is to say: it is not important to talk about God, it is more important to be in a state of continuous prayer, to reduce the urge to "understand" [to control information] in favor of the urge to "love", "listen", and "receive" in the "ortho"[correct]-way whatever comes to you [to believe].
More explanations are needed and they will follow.
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