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discussion about orthodox religion #1
bluetoria:
Why sad? You live & learn!
helenazar:
--- Quote ---But at the same time we need to 'belong' - and ... need guidance or else we may end up believing all kinds of bizarre things & become arrogant in thinking we are right.
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Why would this be the case? We are not children, after all! ???
bluetoria:
Perhaps I phrased it badly. (It's so late!!) Because, perhaps, God is so 'unknowable' - it is important (I think) to be able to have some kind of 'standard' (I can't think of a better expression) against which to test our beliefs. The Church seems to be that. That where we are not sure we can consider the thousands of years of experience and see what the Church states. Also, I believe that through the Church (in some way which I do not understand) God can speak to us whereas (think back to denial in other threads :)) our own minds might deceive us.
Georgiy:
In spiritual matters we all are children! Probably actually infants. I would be very wary of people claiming to be 'spiritual' - there is a lot of deception (both self-deception and from the evil one out there) and a lot of prelest (spiritual deception - a kind of I am holier than thou mindset - 'I have seen a vision of Angels so I must be on the right track and am therefore quite spiritual' - all the while forgetting that the Devil can appear as a shining angel if he so wishes.)
helenazar:
--- Quote --- ....where we are not sure we can consider the thousands of years of experience and see what the Church states.
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But different churches have different opinions about things, that's my whole point. So the church may confuse us even more, unless you have absolute faith in whichever church we are talking about... And even then, this advice is coming from a person, not from God, and is subject to their interpretation.
--- Quote --- I believe that through the Church (in some way which I do not understand) God can speak to us whereas (think back to denial in other threads :)) our own minds might deceive us.
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Since you put it that way, than psychotherapy may be more effective ;)
I guess different people have different needs and luckily we have the option of where to turn to for our own (at least in some countries we do). People should just choose what's right for them to get them through the day or through life, but we shouldn't assume that one specific thing will work for everyone...
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