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Re: Emperor Karl of Austria & Empress Zita, their family, Part I
« Reply #120 on: December 19, 2006, 12:55:09 PM »

The young couple moving in sledge during winter


Zita slipping on a toboggan with Karl and two of her Parma's brothers
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Re: Emperor Karl of Austria & Empress Zita, their family, Part I
« Reply #121 on: December 22, 2006, 04:23:36 PM »
I believe he is burried in Senhora do Monte Church in Funchal.
That is right. It is an island called Madeira off the African coast. It belongs to Portugal.

Kaiser Karl is buried there and will be there for some time. The reason is that he was beatified on October 3, 2004 by the pope Johannes Paul II. There is a large group of the Kaiser's followers called the "Gebetsliga" which has the intention to make of him a saint. There is a canonization process going on. There is a rule inside the Catholic Church that during the process (Beatification or next step Sainthood) the body must not be moved. So for the time being he will rest in Madeira.

It is the intention of the family that he will eventually be moved to Vienna and rest besides the Empress Zita. But first he must attain Sainthood.

Once the time comes there will be a major problem. The people from Madeira have called him now for quite some time "The Saint of Funjal" and the Church or Chapel where he is buried has become a Shrine where thousands go to pray. Will the family want to move the body when time arrives? Will they take into account the will and devotion from the noble people from Madeira? Time will tell.

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Re: Emperor Karl of Austria & Empress Zita, their family, Part I
« Reply #122 on: December 24, 2006, 06:06:50 AM »
On the last photograph, on the toboggan behind Zita, we recognizes her two brothers Sixte and Xavier of Bourbon Parma which, committed later in the allied armies, will help their sister to start talks with France to try as fast as possible to put a term at the war.

Unfortunately for Karl and Zita, these attempts failed in front of the obstinacy of Clemenceau to want the fall of Hasburgs at all costs.
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Re: Emperor Karl of Austria & Empress Zita, their family, Part I
« Reply #123 on: January 07, 2007, 06:57:19 AM »
The marriage of Karl and Zita took place in the castle of Schwarzeau, near Vienna, on October 21 1911, in the presence of Emperor François Joseph :







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Re: Emperor Karl of Austria & Empress Zita, their family, Part I
« Reply #124 on: January 18, 2007, 02:03:08 PM »

I've seen quite a few of these wedding pictures and I like them a lot. In most of these photos we can see Maria Antonia of Parma, Archduchess Marie Therese, Archduchess Maria Josepha, Archduchess Marie Valérie and her husban Archduke Franz Salvator and Archduke Franz Ferdinand.
Is anybody able to identify this little girl we can see in the first two pictures? Is she a younger sister of Zita? Maybe Henriette?
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Ich aber breite trauernd aus
die weiten weissen Schwingen,
Und kehr' ins Feenreich nach Haus -
Nichts soll mich wieder bringen.


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Re: Emperor Karl of Austria & Empress Zita, their family, Part I
« Reply #125 on: January 28, 2007, 06:13:22 AM »


She was very beautiful on this pic ! :D
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Re: Emperor Karl of Austria & Empress Zita, their family, Part I
« Reply #126 on: February 18, 2007, 09:32:55 AM »
Two lovely portraits of Zita :



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Re: Emperor Karl of Austria & Empress Zita, their family, Part I
« Reply #127 on: February 21, 2007, 03:55:43 AM »
I talked with an old lady today. She said that her aunt was a lady-in-waiting. There are my photos:

Karl and Zita with their children



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Re: Emperor Karl of Austria & Empress Zita, their family, Part I
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Re: Emperor Karl of Austria & Empress Zita, their family, Part I
« Reply #131 on: February 21, 2007, 07:06:58 PM »
Did she lost her jewels in the war ?  ???

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Re: Emperor Karl of Austria & Empress Zita, their family, Part I
« Reply #132 on: February 24, 2007, 03:17:07 AM »
Did she lost her jewels in the war ?  ???


The facts are even more tragic.

The shortly after their exile, Charles and Zita had entrusted the few jewels which they had been able to carry with them with a right-hand man, Bruno Steiner.

This last had received for mission of reselling them in Switzerland on behalf of the deposed sovereigns but, once arrived to Zurich, he had disappeared by carrying the jewels with him.

And one found neither one nor the others.
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Re: Emperor Karl of Austria & Empress Zita, their family, Part I
« Reply #133 on: March 01, 2007, 06:29:52 AM »
Did she lost her jewels in the war ?  ???


The facts are even more tragic.

The shortly after their exile, Charles and Zita had entrusted the few jewels which they had been able to carry with them with a right-hand man, Bruno Steiner.

This last had received for mission of reselling them in Switzerland on behalf of the deposed sovereigns but, once arrived to Zurich, he had disappeared by carrying the jewels with him.

And one found neither one nor the others.
That story I think concerns the CROWN jewels such as Marie Antoinette's rubies, the famous black pearls etc..Zita's personal jewels cannot all have been lost because in widowhood she ceratinly never wore any adornments....she still owned the diadem that was her wedding gift from the Emperor Franz josef & was later worn on her wedding day by Princess Regina when she married Zita's eldest son Otto..

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Re: Emperor Karl of Austria & Empress Zita, their family, Part I
« Reply #134 on: March 03, 2007, 05:31:43 AM »
Yes, of course, Zita fortunately could preserve some jewels of family which she bequeathed later to her descendants.
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