Author Topic: Was Nicolas II a Free Mason?  (Read 22439 times)

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lexi4

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Re: Nicolas II free-masson?
« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2005, 06:01:57 PM »
I am not sure about this, I will have to check. But isn't there some of the Holy Grail lore attached to the Free Masons?

bluetoria

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Re: Nicolas II free-masson?
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2005, 01:29:25 PM »
Yes, lexi4; it's all to do with the Templar knights and their supposed connection with the Freemasons. According to their legend much information discovered during the Crusades & it is believed this included a story that Jesus did not die on the cross ( ::)) but lived in France. The Holy Grail was really the sang real (or reyal??) i.e. the blood line of Christ.

It becomes part of the Da Vinci code.... ::)

lexi4

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Re: Nicolas II free-masson?
« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2005, 01:38:50 PM »
It was also part of the Book Holy Blood Holy Grail and several others that were written long before Da Vinci code and actually was based in part on the legend that Mary Magd. and Jesus were married. If I remember right would have to check my books.

bluetoria

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Re: Nicolas II free-masson?
« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2005, 01:40:40 PM »
Yes, I've read that book...but did not find it convincing at all. This has, I think, been discussed on another thread but I can't remember where...I'll see if I can find it!  :)


lexi4

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Re: Nicolas II free-masson?
« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2005, 11:51:00 PM »
Thank you!

hikaru

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« Reply #36 on: July 27, 2005, 11:50:53 PM »
I have read in one Russian book that England Government refused to receive the exile of  the Nicholas and his family because very powerful masons of America ( finance 's bosses) ordered to England  do not  let Nicholas to enter in England.
 Did anyone hear about it?
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Finelly

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Re: Nicolas II free-masson?
« Reply #37 on: July 28, 2005, 12:14:04 AM »
Nicholas II believed that Jews and Free Masons were leading the Revolution.  It's hardly likely that he was a member.  Alexandra was quite suspicious of them......and they were also blamed for Rasputin's death.

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Re: Nicolas II free-masson?
« Reply #38 on: July 28, 2005, 11:59:28 AM »
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I have read in one russian book that England Governement refused to receive tne exile of  the Nicholas and his family because very powerfull massons of America ( finance 's bosses) ordered to England  do not  let Nicholas to enter in England.
 Did anyone hear about it?


No... ???
Not quite sure why 'American businessmen' would ORDER the Brittish Government to do anything?
Sorry, I think that's just a legend ...unless The Americans are making orders for the Russian Government now! :D ;)

It is true that both Nicholas & Alexandra feared a 'conspiracy' of Freemasons...why-- I cannot understand!
The whole Free Mason/Holy Grail business is just a fantasy from the "Duh Vinci Code" ;)  


David_Pritchard

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Re: Nicolas II free-masson?
« Reply #39 on: July 28, 2005, 12:16:54 PM »
To understand the political impact of Freemasonry on revolutions around the world, one must first grasp that there are two branches of Freemasonry that are distinctly seperate.

The first branch of Freemasonry is that originating from the Grand Lodge in London. It's members are theists and strongly libertarian. Many Freemasons affiliated with the London Lodge organised the American Revolution.

The second branch of Freemasonry is that originating from the Grand Oriental Lodge in Paris. It's membership is atheist, secretive, anti-religious, pro-equality. The revolutionary work of the membership have contributed to the French Revolution, the Portuguese Civil War and the Risorgimento.

The legally established Lodges in Russia were affiliated with the Grand Lodge in London. I do not know the affiliation of the clandestine lodges.

I would speculate that if any of the Russian Freemasons (connected to the Grand Lodge in London) were  affiliated with a revolution it would be the Decemberist Revolution of 1825 rather than those of 1917. If there was Masonic involvement in the 1917 revolutions, I would strongly suspect the Oriental Lodge Freemasons.

I should add that here in America, Oriental Lodge Freemasons are not permitted to enter the Masonic Lodges. This may be the case with all Masonic bodies associated with the Grand Lodge in London.

DAP
(a non-Mason)

hikaru

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Re: Nicolas II free-masson?
« Reply #40 on: July 28, 2005, 03:32:45 PM »
Dear rsKkiya : the book to which I reffered was written before our 1991 revolution and before Da Vinchi Code.

hikaru

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Re: Nicolas II free-masson?
« Reply #41 on: July 28, 2005, 03:33:23 PM »
David , Thank you very much.
Your knowledge are very profound.

Finelly

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Re: Nicolas II free-masson?
« Reply #42 on: July 28, 2005, 07:17:10 PM »
Yep, the entire free mason legend and mythology came BEFORE the Da Vinci Code.......

Caleb

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« Reply #43 on: September 14, 2005, 03:02:18 PM »
I highly doubt Nicholas was a free-mason, but I remeber that King Edward VII ("Bertie") was. I am a devout Evangelical Christian & I'm not trying to offend anybody, but I'm against secret societies

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Re: Nicolas II free-masson?
« Reply #44 on: September 14, 2005, 10:33:36 PM »
Orthodox Christians are also against secret societies. Technically speaking a person can not be Orthodox and a freemason. Certainly if they are both, they should not be having Communion at an Orthodox Church.
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