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Re: Claimants of Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich
« Reply #210 on: June 08, 2005, 07:27:46 PM »
Well; I don't know much about Heino Tammet's case, but I didn't believe in any conspirancies against him...until I knew the DNA matter. Why didn't they said clearly: "He isn't related to Romanovs in any ways", or "He is Alexei"? Too odd. How could have been a "hiatus" in the proofs that are being performed in the teeth sample? Anyone...? ???

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Re: Claimants of Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich
« Reply #211 on: June 08, 2005, 08:34:10 PM »
i found out that alexei is 5,209 weeks old ;D

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Re: Claimants of Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich
« Reply #212 on: June 08, 2005, 08:40:33 PM »
He and his family were murdered 2,742,237,534 seconds ago

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Re: Claimants of Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich
« Reply #213 on: June 08, 2005, 10:07:34 PM »
I did not know that Filatovs  DNA was tested. Does anyone have any more information about this?
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Re: Claimants of Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich
« Reply #214 on: June 08, 2005, 10:24:57 PM »
RealAnastasia:  

It sounds to me like while the process of extracting the raw material of the DNA  from the tooth was done, the process, the sample was not actually processed because the procedure was not paid for and therefore the people at Aldermaston had no information to report.  If Dr. Gill in fact had no knowledge of the sample in 1994, pursuing anything more from the English lab would be fruitless.  

About those other two teeth, Dr. William Maples died sometime after making that cryptic remark to Mrs. Tammet that 'the evidence is complete':  which could have just meant that the laboratory needed nothing more from her.    She had also submitted evidence of a collection of letters and memorabilia dating from about the time Mr. Tammet was supposed to have 'admitted he was Alexei'.    (sounds more like the onset of a psychotic break brought on by the strain of illness after a difficult life and a few broken marriages of convenience that did not work out.)  The extractions may not even have been done there either because of no payment from Mrs. Tammet.  Conspiracy is not likely here in the least.

I would not hold my breath.  If the Wiermann family did step forward and say anything more about their eccentric great-uncle, DNA testing would not even be necessary.

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Re: Claimants of Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich
« Reply #215 on: June 08, 2005, 10:31:07 PM »
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Well; I don't know much about Heino Tammet's case, but I didn't believe in any conspirancies against him...until I knew the DNA matter. Why didn't they said clearly: "He isn't related to Romanovs in any ways", or "He is Alexei"? Too odd. How could have been a "hiatus" in the proofs that are being performed in the teeth sample? Anyone...? ???

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Yes...if the family didn't pay for all the testing...they get...nada....

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Re: Claimants of Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich
« Reply #216 on: June 10, 2005, 07:38:12 PM »
I don't understand why they ust paid for something like this...The "Alexei case" is important for History, at least to be able to said that Tammet was not Alexei. And if the family is poor...must they give up to they right to know WHO they are? (Even if Tammet was not Alexei) I've a cousin who was not sure to be her father's daughter and wanted to do a DNA proof...but since she isn't awfully rich, she couldn't do it. And she still not know who was her father. Sad enough...All in this life is money.  ::) :o

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Re: Claimants of Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich
« Reply #217 on: June 10, 2005, 11:33:52 PM »
RealAnastasia:  DNA testing is extremely expensive, and when the opportunity to compare that of any interested claimants to that of the Imperial Family came along, it was possibly not stressed to any of these people at the time that particularly in Russia costs were prohibitive.  The really sad thing about the Tammet DNA in that respect is that Sandra Tammet probably expected the tests to be done for free because she was extended an equal opportunity to get her husband's sample in at the same time the scientists got those of the rest of the interested parties.  This was not meant to imply that the requestors thought any more of Tammet's claim than of any other.  This was going to be a one-shot deal, and because the money ran out the plan fizzled for all the claimants that could not pony up for testing and results.  One supposes that most of these people were left high and dry especially if they were poor Russians that lived in Siberia.  If the supporters of Anna Anderson had not paid, they would have gotten no results either.

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Re: Claimants of Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich
« Reply #218 on: June 10, 2005, 11:42:41 PM »
It's all kind of sad really. So many questions could have been put to rest for so many.
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Re: Claimants of Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich
« Reply #219 on: June 11, 2005, 01:56:00 PM »
I don't think anyone survived. I heard that they had found 2 skeletons near where the Imperial Family was found. They are believed to be the skeletons of Alexei, and the missing grand duchess(whom I believe is Maria).

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Re: Claimants of Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich
« Reply #220 on: June 11, 2005, 03:05:27 PM »
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I don't think anyone survived. I heard that they had found 2 skeletons near where the Imperial Family was found. They are believed to be the skeletons of Alexei, and the missing grand duchess(whom I believe is Maria).


Where did you hear this? What is your source?
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Re: Claimants of Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich
« Reply #221 on: June 11, 2005, 03:58:28 PM »
We've been informed that they were not Romanov bones, and, they were not in Pig's Meadow where the mass grave was found.

This old news story  occured several years ago and every once in awhile pops up on these threads....

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Re: Claimants of Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich
« Reply #222 on: June 11, 2005, 08:39:53 PM »
I see. Thank you for telling me.

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Re: Claimants of Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich
« Reply #223 on: June 11, 2005, 11:39:39 PM »
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We've been informed that they were not Romanov bones, and, they were not in Pig's Meadow where the mass grave was found.

This old news story  occured several years ago and every once in awhile pops up on these threads....

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Re: Claimants of Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich
« Reply #224 on: June 12, 2005, 10:44:00 AM »
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There was a pretender that swore he was Alexei right in the begining of the investigation of the murders.

I don't know what motivates someone to claim to be a surviving member of the IF.

But someone took the time to ask a question on this board. And it might be a question that can be easily dismissed. One that has been asked by newbees forever and a day.

I think those who take the time to answer kindly are valuable members of this community.

Maybe someone whose first language isn't English can be confused and dismayed by sophisticated word play.

Just a thought.


We should all work to be less sophisticated.....