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bball33

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Tatiana's attitude?
« on: February 13, 2005, 02:36:06 PM »
I've always heard Tatiana was the grumpiest and meanest of the grand duchesses. Anybody have any opinions? ??? :-/

Maria_Romanov_fan

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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2005, 02:46:16 PM »
Grumpiets? Meanest? With all due respectI think you have heard wrong! ;)

She was the "overseeing eye" nicknamed "The Governess" because she was usually put in charge of the girls to watch over them (ironicly she wasnt the oldest, Olga was, but still she was talller than her!) Anyway, couldn't Alix have felt that because she and Tatiana were close she thought that Tatiana was responcible enough to be in charge?

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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2005, 03:49:26 PM »
I think I understand what you're trying to say, although she has never been described as grumpy or mean. She was, however, a very serious and reserved young woman, and like in the case of her mother (whom she was closest to), some would misunderstand her as being proud and arrogant. She was a very mature girl, and as such was even considered more mature and responsible than her older sister Olga.

She has been described as the sister with the most "regal bearing," meaning she was the one with the character you would most associate with royalty, i.e. elegant, perfectly mannered, but rather standoffish. That's why she may have been thought to be "stuck up."

But despite her serious character, she was also more social than her sister Olga, and she longed to have friends, so she wasn't really all that aloof.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2005, 05:40:10 PM »
According to Alexandra, Olga was the grumpiest. But I don't know about Tatiana. Next to Maria, she seemed like the most giving of the girls. Isn't that why she was called "The Governess"? Because she was very protective and caring towards MAA?

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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2005, 08:49:46 PM »
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Because she was very protective and caring towards MAA? [/color]


Tatiana always took charge and led the the others. Even Olga deferred to her.

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I've always heard Tatiana was the grumpiest and meanest of the grand duchesses. Anybody have any opinions? ??? :-/



I think that many people think Tatiana was grumpy because of the frequent frowns she had in photographs. However, that's not true. She was just very serious, but a nice girl nonetheless.
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2005, 07:51:32 PM »
Tatiana was very reserved, elegant, and a teensy bit bossy ("the Governess").  She took a lot after her mother, character wise.   She may have appeared haughty and distant, like in photos (as has been noted), but I think that disguised her shyness, like Alix again.  She fit the bill, for some, of what a daughter of a Czar should be like.  She was elegant, no arguement there!!!  :D ;) 8)

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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2005, 01:58:21 AM »
I think, according to all the memories written of the young grand duchesses, none of them was ever described "grumpy" or "mean". Tatiana was well aware of her own position as a daughter of the tsar, she was quite reserved, and very well balanced. She was the serious one, whilst her sisters were sometimes mischievous and acted like "little wilds", especially Anastasia. Tatiana was the daughter who never made any trouble and was extremely unselfish. She longed for friends and social life. Anastasia was also sometimes described "the enfant terrible" of the family. She loved to rebel and make practical jokes, even tease other people. But nobody would call her "mean". In spite of her pranks and antics she had good heart and was very affectionate to her family and friends. Olga, who could be "merriest of the merry", would became quite moody sometimes, and was the only one of the girls who could yell her mother. During the war and especially the captivity of the IF she became depressed and withdrawn. Marie was "the angelic one", always kind, smiling, and outgoing. Sometimes she felt a bit abandoned because of her position in the family, between very close "big pair" and Anastasia and Aleksei, who were close, too. Her parents and sisters teased her because she was quite clumsy and plump, but later she became the maybe the prettiest of them all. They were a little bit naive and childish for their age, because of their isolated situation and lack of friends of same age. But they were all very charming and friendly girls, and I haven't ever read any of them called "mean".

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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2005, 07:54:12 PM »
When I said "grumpy and mean" I meant grumpy as, you know, grumpy. But when I said mean I meant, like, she teased, and was bossy, and not like she was deliberately cruel.  :(

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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2005, 10:02:13 AM »
Tatiana was certainly Tsaritsa Aleksandra fyodorovna's favourite daughter, and was treated as the "eldest", instead of Olga, who was 2 years her senior. Behaving the eldest must have meant that she was more serious when it came to behaving, I suppose she grew a lot faster than the rest of the girls, but at any rate I don't consider her mean at all, nor grumpu. Perhaps a bit more serious, but her cold face in photos doens't mean at all she WAS cold, right?

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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2005, 01:58:11 PM »
According to the children's English Tutor C. Syndney Gibbes, he described Tatiana as
"A tall elegant girl you could hardly find anyone so thin...Tatiana was haughty and reserved, dutiful and pensive;it was impossible to guess her thoughts, even if she was more decided in her opinions than her sisters..."

And this coming from a man who knew her better than any historian, so perhaps Tatiana was a little snooty now and then.

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« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2005, 07:22:54 PM »
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so perhaps Tatiana was a little snooty now and then.


People, she was one of four sisters! Growing up with siblings can sometimes get you frustrated! Everyone has their "off days".

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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2005, 07:27:04 PM »
TN did have a habit of being stand-offish, mostly due to her shyness and the fact that being royalty--being "above it all"--was natural to her.  Therefore people took her to be haughty, proud, etc; she certainly could be but tried great lengths not to be as she was desperate to have friends and have people like her and think she was nice, pretty, etc.

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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2005, 02:37:52 PM »
That kind of reminds me of myself. And that's kind of bad. I don't mind being compared too a Grand Duchess, but in the ways of always wanting to have friends and be loved, well, that's me to a T!
(lol, T...as in Tatiana...how ironic.  ??? ::) :P)

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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2005, 12:59:22 PM »
lol!!
I thought most people wanted to have friends and be loved? slightly off topic i know!! anyway!!
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HIH_Sammy

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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2005, 04:40:26 PM »
I find it easy to understand that Tatiana may have seemed snobbish, but I don't believe she intended on seeming so. She may have wanted to have friends, but she or any of her siblings probably never really got a chance to socialize with people thier age, and therefore she more than likely didn't really know how to make friends. She was use to being treated as royalty, and acting so around other people her own age probably irritated them.

On the subject of her nickname of "The Governess", maybe she didn't want the responsibility that GD Olga should have taken. ???