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I would love to see any photos,and know their history.Did they have any childern? What became of them? "Nada" was called colorful and  glamorous ! Thanks

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They had 2 children:

Tatiana who suffered from mental instability and David, 3rd Marquess of Milford-Haven who was quite close to his cousin Philip. Both are now deceased. David was apparently very devoted to his trouble sister.

I have some pictures which I'll post but it's 2 am now (gack!) so I'll have to beg off until tomorrow.
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I've also been interested to know more about Nada in particular ever since I saw a wonderful colour picture of her, George and their son David taken in 1936 in the connection with the coronation of George VI.

I've heard basically just stories about her being lesbian, but surely she must have had time for other things too.  

Apropos pictures, I have sometimes difficulties to recognize Nada from pictures. Therefore I ask about the following pics. Isn't the first of Nada and the latter of her sister Zia?
(Oh, those 'nice people' at Corbis who writes the captions for the pictures!)

CORBIS:
Marchioness of Milford Haven
Nadejda, the second daughter of Grand Duke Michael of Russia and Countess Torby. She married the second Marquess of Milford Haven in 1916.


CORBIS:
Portrait of Countess Nada Torby
A portrait of Countess Nada Torby. Part of Countess Zra's face can also be seen.
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George and Nada at their wedding.  Nada looks very inscrutable and appears to be wearing a very fine diamond necklace......
I think that Nada had a very exotic look, which may well come from her mother's side of the family.
I don't know that we will ever know the full facts of their marriage, which is a shame as I rather suspect that it would make very interesting reading. We do know that the couple had a predilection for pornography and had a most interesing collection of artefacts, and that Nada at least was rumoured to be bisexual.
I will merely add to this that they were a young married couple in society at a time when the old rules and standard seemed to be, if not jettisoned, then at least rigorously challenged; their lifestyle probably reflected that of many upper class couples in their social circle.....
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Nada Milford-Haven was involved n a scandal with Gloria Morgan Vanderbilt, as both were accused of being disciples of Lesbos.

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I would love to see any photos,and know their history.Did they have any childern? What became of them? "Nada" was called colorful and  glamorous ! Thanks



George and Nada had two children,  Tatiana, severely mentally retarded, David, the second Marquess of MIlford Haven, who dropped dead at Liverpool street station.

George was a brilliant man, and much respected in the navy.  He was Prince Philip's Guardian.   Nada was the younger daughter of Grand Duke Michael of Russia and Countess Sophie von Merenberg.  She was flighty, and unencumbered.  When it came to sex, she swung both ways, and often.  She had an affair with Gloria Vanderbilt (mother of jeans Gloria) -- and she and her sister-in-law Edwina Mountbatten (another free spirit) would take off and travel to the Mideast.

It was Nada's more responsible sister, Zia, who took on the care of Tatiana.  Nada lived a very hedonistic lifestyle - Son David was Philip's bestman, but his subsequent quick marriage to a Mrs. Simpson lead to an estrangement ... he subsequently made a successful marriage with a former model.  His son is the 4th Marquess.

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George and Nada at their wedding.  Nada looks very inscrutable and appears to be wearing a very fine diamond necklace......
I think that Nada had a very exotic look, which may well come from her mother's side of the family.
I don't know that we will ever know the full facts of their marriage, which is a shame as I rather suspect that it would make very interesting reading. We do know that the couple had a predilection for pornography and had a most interesing collection of artefacts, and that Nada at least was rumoured to be bisexual.
I will merely add to this that they were a young married couple in society at a time when the old rules and standard seemed to be, if not jettisoned, then at least rigorously challenged; their lifestyle probably reflected that of many upper class couples in their social circle.....



george had the porno collection, and yes, Nada was bisexual.  This had not been denied ... that she also lived a hedonistic lifestyle  is also well known.
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By the way, you can read more about this family in my privately published book - A Grand Alliance: the descendants of Grand Duke Michael and Countess Sophie von merenberg . which can only be ordered from me.


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Oh, fair enough.  It is just  that the rules are quite emphatic, you know.......
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A lovely photo of Nada, looking incredibly glamorous.  Satin always evokes the glamour of the thirties.......
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Wonderful photos, thanks all. And glad to know about Milford-Haven  book.  

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Nada seems to have looked alot like Tatiana. Does anyone have a pic of her (Tatiana) as a young women? I have seen a few of her as a child but cant remember any of her as an adult.

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Nada seems to have looked alot like Tatiana. Does anyone have a pic of her (Tatiana) as a young women? I have seen a few of her as a child but cant remember any of her as an adult.



I think the last time she may have been seen was at Elizabeth and Philip's wedding ... most of her adult life was spent in an institution.
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So was she in the big group shot from the wedding. I do not have a copy right in front of me. I think she was. Can someone maybe post it.