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Re: Older photos of Anastasia
« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2008, 11:16:40 AM »
That was discussed before, and no one could decide if it was a puppy or a stuffed animal. However, I read somewhere is was Shvibzik(sp).
Here are some more of an older Anastasia:




There's another really good one, of her by herself wearing a pretty white dress, but I can't find it.


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« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2009, 11:03:22 AM »
That was discussed before, and no one could decide if it was a puppy or a stuffed animal. However, I read somewhere is was Shvibzik(sp).

Ofcourse it is a puppy... Look at his eyes.... This is Shvibzik to what i know....
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Re: Older photos of Anastasia
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2010, 08:07:50 AM »
This is allegedly the last picture of Anastasia taken a few weeks before her death (from the book "The end of the Romanovs")


Beautiful PHOTO! She looks like 19 years old or something like that hehe!

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Re: Older photos of Anastasia
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2010, 09:26:15 AM »
That´s Anastasia but definitely BEFORE captivity, my guess is 1916. For one she´s dressed in summer clothes, AND she´s got very long hair.

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Re: Older photos of Anastasia
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2010, 12:14:34 PM »
Yes, I'd agree with you there, Ally.

I hate how so many books falsely claim a picture to be the 'last' of Anastasia ever taken. If they did any research they would realize her hair couldn't have possibly grown that long the such a short amount of time. If it were so close to her death she also wouldn't have her pearls still on and wouldn't look so thin.
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Re: Older photos of Anastasia
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2010, 01:37:22 PM »
That was discussed before, and no one could decide if it was a puppy or a stuffed animal. However, I read somewhere is was Shvibzik(sp).
Here are some more of an older Anastasia:


I saw it before but I thought that she wasn't Anastasia, she looks funny on it.
She looks very beautiful in the one of the hat :-D

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Re: Older photos of Anastasia
« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2010, 10:37:15 PM »
Of course, this photo wasn't Anastasia's "last one" before the Ipatiev Murder. It was taken long earlier than that. Her offical "last photo" - at least by now - is the one in which she appears with short hair, in profile, reading a letter or something similar to it. Anastasia had not such long hair "few weeks before the excecution", since she had cutted them off when she was ill with measles while Revolution was starting on.

I think that in the pic you've posted, Anastasia was only 15 years old not 17, as she was when her real "last photo" was taken.

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« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2010, 10:51:25 PM »
Of course, this photo wasn't Anastasia's "last one" before the Ipatiev Murder. It was taken long earlier than that. Her offical "last photo" - at least by now - is the one in which she appears with short hair, in profile, reading a letter or something similar to it. Anastasia had not such long hair "few weeks before the excecution", since she had cutted them off when she was ill with measles while Revolution was starting on.

Well, actually, her last photograph was the one taken of her profile aboard the Rus to Ekaterinburg. The picture you're referring to was taken in Tobolsk.
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« Reply #38 on: January 06, 2010, 02:17:41 PM »
Of course, this photo wasn't Anastasia's "last one" before the Ipatiev Murder. It was taken long earlier than that. Her offical "last photo" - at least by now - is the one in which she appears with short hair, in profile, reading a letter or something similar to it. Anastasia had not such long hair "few weeks before the excecution", since she had cutted them off when she was ill with measles while Revolution was starting on.

Well, actually, her last photograph was the one taken of her profile aboard the Rus to Ekaterinburg. The picture you're referring to was taken in Tobolsk.

Hmmh, the last one aboard on the Rus... I had my doubts hehe ^^'

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« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2010, 10:09:01 PM »
Yes...Not only you have doubts. But I didn't want to rise the "Rus" issue again...most of people doesn't like to discuss that topic. In fact, we'll never know which one was her "real" last photo, sinbce there are two or three photos that could be laveled as "the last one". I think that the more accurate word we can use is "one of the last pohotos of Anastasia"...And we must realize that maybe some new pics comes out in Russia, so these "last pics" could not be the last ones after all.

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Re: Older photos of Anastasia
« Reply #40 on: January 07, 2010, 12:38:30 AM »
Yes...Not only you have doubts. But I didn't want to rise the "Rus" issue again...most of people doesn't like to discuss that topic. In fact, we'll never know which one was her "real" last photo, sinbce there are two or three photos that could be laveled as "the last one". I think that the more accurate word we can use is "one of the last pohotos of Anastasia"...And we must realize that maybe some new pics comes out in Russia, so these "last pics" could not be the last ones after all.

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What "Rus issue"? I've never heard of anyone questioning the authenticity of the photographs taken on the Rus.

Obviously we don't know 100% if there wasn't a picture taken after arriving in Ekaterinburg, but considering Tatiana asked for their cameras in the Ipatiev House and was told no and there were negatives found in the stoves I don't see how a picture taken in her Tobolsk bedroom could even be up for debate.
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Re: Older photos of Anastasia
« Reply #41 on: January 07, 2010, 08:16:59 AM »
I never knew Tatiana asked for their cameras during their captivity in the Inpatiev House. Thanks Holly for that information.
But their is so many pictures up for debated wether they are the last picture or not. I would say that the Rus picture could well be one of the real last pictures but we can't for shore tell what picture was the last because their is a lot of picture that never made it outside Russia. I haven't heard anything of a Rus issue.


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Re: Older photos of Anastasia
« Reply #42 on: January 07, 2010, 08:36:20 AM »
I know the family asked for the camera at the occassion of Maria´s birthday, but were rejected.

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Re: Older photos of Anastasia
« Reply #43 on: January 07, 2010, 03:48:56 PM »
I know the family asked for the camera at the occassion of Maria´s birthday, but were rejected.

From the Ipatiev guard duty book, 1/14 June 1918:
There was the Romanovs’ usual walk. Tatyana and Maria asked for photo equipment to finish making photographic plates, but, of course, the commandant refused. The guard commander reported that somebody had stolen his Nagant revolver on record at the House of Special Purpose and it was not found. The guard of Post No. 6 stopped two gymnasia pupils, the Telezhnikov brothers who were taking photographs of the House of Special Purpose. After a search and interrogation they were sent to the Extraordinary Investigation Commission.

(Maria's birthday was 14/27 June, so this was actually two weeks prior. There is no entry in the duty book for Maria's birthday.)


But their is so many pictures up for debated wether they are the last picture or not. I would say that the Rus picture could well be one of the real last pictures but we can't for shore tell what picture was the last because their is a lot of picture that never made it outside Russia.

There are a number of photos that have been mid-identified as the "last" picture of various members of the imperial family, but Holly is right about the final photos of OTAA. They were a pair of snapshots taken by Stanley Gibbes on board the Rus en route to Ekaterinburg.

More photos from the Tobolsk period may eventually surface, but no images of the Romanovs in Ekaterinburg are known to exist. As others have said, no camera equipment was permitted inside the Ipatiev house, and neither the guards' duty book nor the imperial couple's diaries mention the Bolsheviks photographing their prisoners. Because of the whitewashed windows and double palisade no passersby could snap photos of the imprisoned Romanovs either.


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I haven't heard anything of a Rus issue.

The "Rus issue" refers to controversy raised by Fate of the Romanovs regarding OTAA's treatment during their voyage to Ekaterinburg. You can read about it on other threads if you search "Rus." Discussions on that topic tend to get quite heated, however, that's no reason to avoid discussing Gibbes's snapshots.
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Re: Older photos of Anastasia
« Reply #44 on: January 07, 2010, 03:58:00 PM »
I know the family asked for the camera at the occassion of Maria´s birthday, but were rejected.

From the Ipatiev guard duty book, 1/14 June 1918:
There was the Romanovs’ usual walk. Tatyana and Maria asked for photo equipment to finish making photographic plates, but, of course, the commandant refused. The guard commander reported that somebody had stolen his Nagant revolver on record at the House of Special Purpose and it was not found. The guard of Post No. 6 stopped two gymnasia pupils, the Telezhnikov brothers who were taking photographs of the House of Special Purpose. After a search and interrogation they were sent to the Extraordinary Investigation Commission.

(Maria's birthday was 14/27 June, so this was actually two weeks prior. There is no entry in the duty book for Maria's birthday.)

Thank you for explaining. I think I read this info in the Last Tsar by Radzinski (not 100% sure).