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Re: Royal Family of Montenegro--past and present
« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2005, 06:54:48 PM »
Don't know  ;) I just know that this was a custom among all European courts to give the names after someone...either powerfull(like Emperors) or either from their own family!Look at Queen Victoria for example!She got her name after her mother,and after...in the second half of the 19th century allmost every royal/noble girl had name Victoria in her long name(they needed a vacation to sign a document  8) )!So did the Montenegrian Princessses-their names were  wishes of their godfather-they were Serbian Princes-first and when their politics split up Montenegrian family turned up to the Russians...and they ''welcomed'' them!So,thanks to the Imperial Royal family all Montenegrian Princesses were in position to marry as they did!

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« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2005, 06:56:14 PM »
And also-European royal families needed more ''new'' blood...

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Re: Royal Family of Montenegro--past and present
« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2005, 10:01:13 PM »
Marc,

I still believe there must be somrthing specail about these sisters we have not hit upon in the thread yet.  

You do not make the marriages they made without that something special such as the Cushing sisters in the 1940s in the USA and the Miller Girls in the 1990's

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« Reply #33 on: March 18, 2005, 06:37:44 AM »
Well,if you are searching for something special,that must be mystic around them...Grand Duchess Militza knew even Persian among other languages in order to read Persian myths,her sister Queen Elena could sence earthquick(there are written records about it-she even saved one boy while holding the brick during the crushing of the house),their mother Milena could see what gender the child will be just from the position of the belly...All these things and the fact that they looked different(they were dark haired) comparing allmost 90% plain born European Princesses.Also they were very well educated,very courious for new things and exelently informed about everything that was going on at the time!That is what I think made them different!

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« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2005, 07:12:40 AM »
Marc,

I knew there had to be something about then.  I am sure in a family with all those sisters there was no way the "family household" could be a male dominated atmosphere due to the "majority" being female.

This may account for their educations.  One uneducated female is not a problem ( a good dowry will make up for that) but no one wants a household with six uneducated creatures running around.

I find the whole family extremely interesting and cannot wait to buy books from Arturo about them.

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Re: Royal Family of Montenegro--past and present
« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2005, 05:52:36 PM »
Yes,King Nikocholas II started building a monastery for them,because as a married women who would stay in Montenegro they would be a problem for a taxpayers...So,they really feared of Princesses running around the court doing nothing and just spending tax money and that's why King wanted to put all of them to one place-monastery built on the lake island!But,their faith was different...

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Re: Royal Family of Montenegro--past and present
« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2005, 12:00:47 PM »
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No, I have not seen this book.

I did not know that such a book existed.

Other than true love, how did all the Montenegrin princesses manage to make such good alliances/matches.  They all seem to be or ended up being love matches.

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That's because it's all but impossible to find. There was a very small published apparently. It doesnt' even show up in sites like bookfinder.com (at least not recently).
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« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2005, 12:13:18 PM »
The book is: THE MONTENEGRIN ROYAL MARRIAGES by Milan Jovicevic published by The Museums of Cetinje 1988. Limited to 1,000 copies. It is noted as Book 1 of the Royal Palace Albums. But as far as I know, there were no further volumes.
Another excellent book on the family is NIKOLA & Milena by Marco Houston [in collaboration with the Museum of King Nikola of Montenegro [same museum ?] This was published by Leppi Pub. and is still probably available from Royalty Magazine.

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« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2005, 05:44:56 PM »
Royal marriages of Montenegro has a lot of photos and informstions about every married member of the family...Photos Danjel posted posted for me are from this book!

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« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2005, 09:14:37 PM »
Nikola and Milena is a wonderful book-if you're familiar with The Romanovs: Love, Power and Tragedy, this book is very similiar and it's gorgeous.

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Re: Royal Family of Montenegro--past and present
« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2005, 10:06:38 PM »
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Nikola and Milena is a wonderful book-if you're familiar with The Romanovs: Love, Power and Tragedy, this book is very similiar and it's gorgeous.



Same publisher--Leppi. They need to do more books.  :)  They were supposed to have a book titled something like Alexandra and Marie about QA and Minny. That was about a year ago and nothing on the website indicates any forward movement towards publication.  :(
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« Reply #41 on: March 21, 2005, 10:13:22 PM »
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Same publisher--Leppi. They need to do more books.  :)  They were supposed to have a book titled something like Alexandra and Marie about QA and Minny. That was about a year ago and nothing on the website indicates any forward movement towards publication.  :(



I went through hell trying to obtain Nikola and Milena directly.  They had an order form in Royalty magazine for a pre-order, and I sent it in with my check, which they never cashed.  I'd get a letter here and there promising it would be out soon-they had found "more material" to publish it.  Finally after a time without my check being cashed, I gave it up in disgust.  Then, about a year or two later, I looked the title up on Amazon and found it.  I ordered it and it arrived within two or three days.  Score!
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Re: Royal Family of Montenegro--past and present
« Reply #42 on: March 21, 2005, 11:35:44 PM »
That seems about the norm with them.  I like GrDElla's advice- Amazon.  I have  then both though already-  the Romanov book and the Montenegrins.  L,P&T- THAT was an experience in patience to put it mildly !

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Re: Royal Family of Montenegro--past and present
« Reply #43 on: March 29, 2005, 02:10:59 AM »
There is also an interesting sory that while she was swimming in Bled Lake in Slovenia she got a spasm and was so confused that she,instead of screaming ''Help,help"" started to scream ''Hello,hello'' to the people walking by the lake and instead of helping her they also waived to her!Fortunatly the spasm was a short oneand she got away with it!

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« Reply #44 on: March 29, 2005, 02:19:02 AM »
Montennegrian and Yugoslav royal families were not the best of freinds,especially not after the exile of the King Nicholas II of Montenegro(although cousins-King Nicholas II was the grandfather of King Alexander killed in Marseilles)!It is interesting to say that Duchess Auguste Charlotte Jutta(Crown Princess Militza) was still a great friend of the family,especially of her cousin Queen Marie of Yugoslavia(born Princess von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen of Romania),both descended from the two brothers;Marie from Eduard,Duke of Kent(Queen Victoria's father) and Auguste Charlotte from Adolphus,Duke of Cambridge(his daughter Auguste,Grand Duchess von Mecklenburg-Strelitz being her grandmother)!