Princess Irene of Greece (1904-1974)

[ashdean]

Also Irene wore a choker (that belonged to her mother) as a bandeau at the coronation of King Ferdinand & Queen Marie of Romania. I thought the bandeau she wore a bit strange until I looked at a choker that Queen Sophie wore in a photograph. I think Irene might have inherited the choker since it was not seen in the Greek Royal Family anymore.

As I have never seen pictures of Irene wearing the choker (either as a choker or shortened into bracelet form) till I see evidence I  would not dream of speculating that  Irene inherited the jewel.

[Carolath Habsburg]

Here s an image of Irene at King Ferdinand´s coronation

Helen and Carol during coronation, 1922 :

I cant figure out which choker  might be. This one?

[Eric_Lowe]

Yes. You spotted the same things I saw ! I think Sophie had quite a few chokers she worn in photos (including the diamond & pearl one she wore with her long lacy dress and long satoir of pearls), don't know what happen to them as they did not reappear in her children's collection. I think they might be sold.

[ashdean]

Yes. You spotted the same things I saw ! I think Sophie had quite a few chokers she worn in photos (including the diamond & pearl one she wore with her long lacy dress and long satoir of pearls), don't know what happen to them as they did not reappear in her children's collection. I think they might be sold.

Two days before this post you said you thought Irene had inherited her mothers dogcollar....know you say you think they might have been sold!!!.....rather an about turn!...would not it be better not to say anything and save 2 posts!

[Eric_Lowe]

Ashdean. Don't get excited. Queen Sophie had more than one dog collar. I am sure you remember the hexagon one she wore in a photo with her small circle tiara and the diamond pearl one with her big tiara. both those dog collars were not seen again in her children. It would be safe to assume they were sold as Queen Sophie was far from rich during her exile.

[ashdean]

Eric...don't flatter yourself....excitment is an emotion I never experience when I see you innane,unsubstantiated and unthoughtout postings....and I know from dozens of contacts on this board I am not alone!

[Eric_Lowe]

Save for judgment for others. Lets stick to the facts. Thank you. 

[Eddie_uk]

Facts?? I don't call posting that Sophie parted with the tiara following Irene's wedding when Sophie had in fact been dead for 7 and half years a fact. Ashdean always posts facts, pity you don't. 

[Eric_Lowe]

We were talking about the jewelled chokers or dog collars not the tiara ! 

[ashdean]

We were talking about the jewelled chokers or dog collars not the tiara ! 

NO because you AS USUAL blithely glossed over yr factual errors....YOU DID say that..it is there in black and white!

[Eric_Lowe]

No I did not. The tiara was auctioned in 1979 according to Carolath Hapsburg. What I am talking about was the choker that Irene wore as a bandeau in Queen Marie of Romania's coronation. That was the one who could have been sold period. Anyway I don't see you adding any new insight to that particular jewel.

[Eddie_uk]

I think Queen Sophie did not part with the tiara until Irene got married. She was seen wearing the tiara in a photo with her grandson Prince Michael of Greece.

 So you see?

[ashdean]

No I did not. The tiara was auctioned in 1979 according to Carolath Hapsburg. What I am talking about was the choker that Irene wore as a bandeau in Queen Marie of Romania's coronation. That was the one who could have been sold period. Anyway I don't see you adding any new insight to that particular jewel.

I could add all sorts of insights to the gems (I could even yell you what the tiara made at auctionas I have a catalogue )but I certainly wont because of YOU....and if you look at post 150 on this thread  you will see it was I who put you right about the tiara and Carolath who verified the fact....
Anyway Im wasting my precious time and the forums precious space arguing with a deluded meglomaniac who is a TOTAL  WASTE of TIME and SPACE!

[Robert_Hall]

Ashdean, I have a great many books and catalogues about royal jewelry but no where near your knowledge,   Yet, certainly more than some here.

[ashdean]

Ashdean, I have a great many books and catalogues about royal jewelry but no where near your knowledge,   Yet, certainly more than some here.

Thankyou Robert but  my knowledge is not that vast.I always admire yr sensible and factual posts.