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Re: Princes Golitzin
« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2007, 08:56:18 AM »
Thank you scarlett_riviera. 

I owe Galitzine so much thanks as I never had any idea which Prince Galitzine had married Amee.  Galitzine was so gracious sharing the family photographs and information from the Galitzine Family book. 

Galitzine has helped me complete the picture.  I know just where the Princess lived in Paris, and have a photo of her three story, three block long town house, with it's triple basement (all the three's were one of the reasons she chose this house in the Passy, or so that is the way the family legend goes) and I know someone whose grandmother, a Russian exile, lived just a few blocks away.  I also know that the Princess' house is now divided into condos.  Actually my friend who took the picture said that the concierge still remembered hearing stories about the Princess.  Now I have so much wonderful information about the Prince.  Prince Mstislav has the same dramatic good looks that my Uncle had.  I have a small painting of my Uncle which was painted in Morocco, in which he is dressed as Bedouin and he has that same exotic handsome look that the Prince has.     

Thanks for liking my table; it is one of two reproduction Empire tables which have lovely Cleopatra heads at the top of each leg.  I am so grateful to have them and fortunately they were affordable because they are mid-century copies.  My antique agent is this great hard-working man who is dedicated to gathering all the French and Italian antiques he can get his hands on.  He goes all over the world and buys the entire contents of old mansions and palaces.  He then sorts through the contents and sells everything he does not want.  He often makes enough from the re-sale to pay for the antiques. 

He has this enormous, awful looking peach-colored warehouse which is filled with his antiques.  One day I was there and I saw these broken gilded bergère chairs and sofa that were carved in a Louis XV style and they looked as though they had such a intriguing story to tell.  I asked my agent if I could have them and he said yes.  He employs several artisans who not only restore the furniture but also upholster it.  The man's brother owns a large fabric factory and imports all kinds of lovely cloth so he is able to get very expensive fabric at a fairly resonable price, at least it is priced reasonably for millionaires. 

It took me three years to pay off the sofa and chairs but it was worth it.  I found out that the sofa and chairs are several hundred years old and came out of an old palace in Alexandria, Egypt of all things.  The carving looks like Cleopatra had a fight with Louis XV and no one is sure who won.  The really wonderful thing is that just at the time that I needed to pick out a upholstery fabric for them, there was this billionaire lady who was doing all the drapes in her mansion in this exquisite crème cotton damask (my favorite fabric) which was mucho expensive and my agent had enough left from the scraps to cover the sofa and chairs and I was able to pay almost nothing for the left-over damask. 

Well the end of my tale is this, I almost didn't get the sofa and chairs, because once they were finished decorators were willing to pay three times what I had been charged so I had to hurry up and complete my last payment, which I did.  When I moved to the shore I had to part with my sofa which was actually a good thing as the three pieces together were a bit overwhelming.  When I had the complete set I kept finding myself calling for my staff of servants.  The sad thing is that I don't have a staff of servants to call upon.  Now that I have just my gilded bergère chairs, things are just a bit more relaxed and besides they make me smile every time I look at them.   

Do forgive me for going on like this and being so chatty, but I am just so happy to have learned about the Prince, and I do tend to get terribly chatty when I am happy.  Thank you again for liking my table.  Griff
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Re: Princes Golitzin
« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2007, 08:36:03 PM »
I like the history behind the sofa and chairs, thank you for telling it. Several hundred years old AND from an old palace. ;D It must've felt magical having them around. You may not have the sofa anymore but at least you still have those precious chairs!

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Re: Princes Golitzin
« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2007, 06:59:07 PM »
scarlett_riviera thank you for your interest in those chairs and sofa.  Because of your interest I felt that I must show them to you. The photos are taken in the library of my former residence.  I forgot to add that you will see the wonderful little tea table that came with the set.  I have managed to keep that peice along with the chairs.  Honestly that sofa was almost as large as a mid-century sports car, and tho' I adored it, I am a bit relieved that it has found another home. 






Toodle pip....Griff
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« Reply #33 on: May 22, 2007, 11:43:05 PM »
They're so pretty! I can imagine a Yussupov owning one of those chairs!
I also love, love, love the table, and the centerpiece is great!

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« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2007, 06:40:59 AM »
Thank you so much.  The center peice was part of my Christmas decor.  My rug is a Bukhara from Kazakhstan and my dealers there are Akul Nakov and Dmitry Smolenskiy.  If you do a on-line seach you can find them.  I love the bolder colors and the use of black.  The rug's strong design really tamed the chairs and sofa.    Well I should not do anymore show and tell as it is a bit rude to use this thread in that way.  Just the same thanks again scarlett_riviera for your interest kind remarks.  Griff   

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« Reply #35 on: June 06, 2007, 09:41:34 PM »
Well scarlett_riviera I can't help sharing this self-portrait of my Uncle Morgan, in spite of my embarrassment over this "show and tell" penchant of mine. The portrait was painted in Morocco whilst Uncle Morgan was on holiday from his studies in Paris.  It dates to the time when my Uncle was "involved" with Princess Galitzine.  My connection to the Princess is through my mother's family, which makes the romantic attachment of my teenage paternal Uncle Morgan, who was at least 30 years younger than the Princess at the time of their “enchantment,” a double connection to the Princess.  I think that you will agree that Uncle Morgan and Prince Mstislav have the same dramatic good looks.  My Uncle had a love of the exotic and often went to Morocco in the garb of a Bedouin.  I adored the man and thank goodness he painted my portrait in his studio. 

His papers are now with the Smithstonian Museum and he has a rather nice write up on that Wikipedia site.  Well anyway, here is that handsome teenage devil in the late 1920's. 


Uncle Morgan, Morocco, 1928.

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Re: Princes Golitzin
« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2007, 06:25:53 AM »
I just wanted to make a minor correction.  My Uncle was not a teenager in the painting, he was 22 years old when he painted this self-portrait.  I also wanted to say that Princess Galitzine introduced my Uncle Morgan to many of the young Russian nobles and he was even made a member of the Russian basketball team.  My Uncle was an excellant linguist and spoke French and Spanish flawlessly.  He also learned Russian and was very proud of his perfect accent.  When I visited his home as a boy I would sit beside him at the dining room table and stare in awe as he searched among four or five languages in order to find the perfect word to describe something that delighted him. 

Two of Uncle Morgan's friends were Baron B. de Ludinghausen-Wolff who married Princess Xenia Stcherbatov, daughter of Prince Alexander Stcherbatov and Princess Sophia Wassiltchkov, on 4 July 1939 in Paris.  Another friend was Nicholas F. de Bourdoukoff, Chamberlain to his I. M. Nicholas II Emperor of Russia K. L. H. K. M. O.

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« Reply #37 on: June 07, 2007, 11:33:45 AM »
Nicholas F. de Bourdoukoff, Chamberlain to his I. M. Nicholas II Emperor of Russia
He was a Stable Master [шталмейстер] , a honorary court rank roughly equivalent to Major General.

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« Reply #38 on: June 07, 2007, 07:38:48 PM »
Mike!!! Thank you so much for your helpful information.  By-the-by, might you know what de Bourdoukoff's title was?  I thought he was a Count, but I am not sure. 

Also, Mike do you know if my Uncle Morgan's other friend, Baron B. de Ludinghausen-Wolff's wife, Princess Xenia Stcherbatov, was the daughter of the former Minister of the Interior, Prince N. B. Stcherbatov, or was her father another member of the Stcherbatov family?   I do hope that Xenia was not the daughter of Prince N. B. Stcherbatov as he gave the Empress such a hard time. 

Again, Mike, I can't help wondering if Xenia's mother, Princess Sophia Wassiltchkov, married a second time in exile?   Was Wassiltchkov her former married name or was it her maiden name?  There was a certain Princess Sophia Wassilchkov who managed to write a very rude letter to the Empress in December 1916 and was expelled from Petrograd along with her husband, Senator-Prince Wassiltchkov who was a member of the Council of the Empire.  Of course the couple’s exile lasted only a few short months, as the Emperor abdicated in March 1917 and the Princess and husband returned to Petrograd in a rather splendid but short lived triumphal entry. 

As grateful as I am for every Russian Noble that managed, through God’s good grace, to escape the barbaric Bolshevik exterminators, including those families that were able to remain in Russia without being eradicated; still I have always hoped and prayed that Xenia’s mother was not the same Princess Sophie Wassiltchov whose incautious letter so offended the Empress. 

Uncle Morgan told my mother that the long hand of the Bolsheviks was never far from Paris during the nineteen twenties and the nineteen thirties.  Uncle Morgan told my mother that, in spite of the fact that the Paris Émigré Russian colony was constantly on alert, one individual after another would suddenly disappear.   The way my mother told my sister’s and I about those terrifying years made the hair on the back of our necks rise as we cuddled around her on Saturday mornings when my father had gone off hunting with his friends.  As we snuggled next to our Mum, eating biscuits and drinking tea, I suppose the security of our lovely home and Mum’s vivid narration made the distant past and all of its dangers seem all the more real to us children.  It created in my heart a life-long desire to learn more about my family, and in turn this interest led me at an early age to learn about nineteenth/early twentieth century Russia. 

I must add that my Mum, who was a direct maternal descendant of the British Poet, Lord Byron, George Gordon, never failed me.  As my appetite for Eurpoean history grew, even at the age of twelve, when I discovered in my father’s library one of my grandfather’s books, the memoirs of Princess Cantacuzène nee Grant, it turned out that my Mum knew more details about the Princess than were written in her book.   The amazing thing was that my Mum was not an individual who looked to the past, it was the present that interested her.  So for her to share information about the past with me was an incredible honor. 

Even when I discover Queen Marie of Romania’s memoirs in a local library at the age of fourteen, my Mum quietly informed me that her father had been among the dignitaries who had presented Queen Marie with gold mesh stockings during her tour of the USA with her daughters in the mid -1920’s.   

Forgive me for my diversion from our topic.  Returning to the Russian Émigré Community in Paris in the late twenties and early nineteen thirties, my Uncle Morgan told my mother that sometimes abductions would occur in broad daylight.  Once when a party of friends was leaving the Ritz, after a charming luncheon, a taxi pulled up and before anyone could do anything some hideous distorted Soviet Animal jumped out and grabbed one of my Uncle’s friends and speed away.  The French police seemed incapable of apprehending these demented criminals.  My Uncle Morgan told my mother that he had lost several good friends in this shocking manner, not to mention several of his friend’s fathers.   

Well Mike thank you again for your very helpful information……toddle pip….Griff


   




 

     
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Re: Princes Golitzin
« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2007, 03:29:27 AM »
Griff,
Nicholas Burdukov, like all other Burdukovs, was not titled. He had inherited the whole estate of his longtime friend Prince Vladimir Meschersky, together with his famous (or infamous - depends on one's opinion) journal Grazhdanin (The Citizen), and was very close to Rasputin and his circle. He is repeatedly mentioned in the Spiridovich's memoirs as an influential figure just before the February revolution.

As to Xenia Scherbatov, she seems to be daughter of Prince Alexander Scherbatov. Actually there were two persons of that name: Alexander Grigoryevich Scherbatov, a well-known public figure and writer in the fields of economics and politics, and his son Alexander Alexandrovich, a retired Navy lieutenant who returned to active duty with the onset of WWI. Both died in 1915. The father was married to Countess Olga Stroganov, so Xenia's father could be only Alexander Jr., also with regards to her age.   

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« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2007, 07:29:00 AM »
Mike thank you so much for all of this wonderful information and thank you so much for the information about Baron B. de Ludinghausen-Wolff's wife, Princess Xenia Stcherbatov and her mother and father.  Was the liberal Minister of Internal Affairs, (I mistakenly called him Minister of Foriegn Affairs, sorry) Prince Scherbatov part of the Stcherbatov family?  I have seen his name spelled with and without a T (Scherbatov and Stchervatov).  I know that transliteration accounts for so many spelling variations but that there are many Russian families with very similar names too.

Mike was Baron de Ludinghausen-Wolff's title a Baltic-Russian one or was he German?   

So the Burdukov's were like the Narishkin family who prided themselves on th fact that they were never titled.  Mike thank you for that fascinating information about Nicholas Burdukov and his connection to Rasputin.  Gosh I can't wait to tell my cousin Danzia.  We were told never to bring up the subject of Rasputin and when I eventually met the Grand Duke Dimitri's son, Paul, I never mentioned a word about Rasputin.  I believe this was a courtesy Paul appreciated as he was very kind to me and even told the social world of the city I was visiting that I was a member of the "family" so I was swept off my feet with invitations and I could never understand why there was a hush when I would enter a room until I asked a society lady that was very friendly.  She told me that the "Grand Duke" (that is what they called Paul) said I was related to the family and when I blushed and told her that was not true, she said, "That is what the Grand Duke said you would say."

I have shared all of this in other posts and still I can't help speaking of meeting Paul and seeing the Grand Duke Dimitri's Russian Birch Empire furniture that he had taken with him into exile, Alexis' giant coral and gold bell rattle, the Empress, long black and silver Fabriege compact that clipped to the back seat of her car, etc. and of course meeting and spending the day with Paul was one of my most cherished memories.  The funny thing is that I did not realize until I found a snap shot of my Mum in a Austin Run-a-bout on Paul's Uncle's estate that my Mum had actually been a guest of Jack Emery's and I believe she dated someone in the Emery family.  I should find that snap shot and post it.       

Well thanks again for your invaluable help and again Mike thank you for all of this wonderful information.     

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Re: Princes Golitzin
« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2007, 10:14:05 AM »
The name Scherbatov may be spelled in languages other than Russian in many ways, but in Russian all those variants are the same Щербатов, and all so named people of noble descent belong to various branches of the same aristocratic family. However, there're many Scherbatov who don't belong to nobility.

Barons Ludinghausen-Wolff moved from Germany to the Duchy of Courland in late XVI c. and in the end of XVIII c., following the land's annexation by Russia, became part of the Russian nobility. It might be that other branches of the Ludinghausen-Wolff family had remained in Germany, as the case often is with Baltic German families.

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« Reply #42 on: June 08, 2007, 12:43:39 PM »
I think Princess Xenia Scherbatoff was one of the 4 daughters of the Prince Scherbatoff who died in 1915 and his wife nee Princess Wassiltchikoff (1879-1927) who left Russia in 1919 along with her brother Prince Ilarion Wassitchikoff,his wife (nee Princess Lydia Wiazemsky ) and their combined families aboard the Princess Ena from Yalta..The family are mentioned in Tatiana by princess Tatiana Metternich ( Ilarion & Lydia's 2nd daughter & thus Xenia's first cousin).

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« Reply #43 on: June 08, 2007, 07:21:22 PM »
Mike thanks, and endless thanks for all of your valuable research and it is great to know the precise background of Baron Ludinghausen-Wolff.  Actually my Aunt Catherine's second husband was a Wolff.     

And Ashdean thank you so very much.  You know what?  You jump started my memory when you mentioned Princess Tatiana Metternich, nee Wassitchikoff.  Can you believe it, I have her sister Missie's book, "Berlin Diaries, 1942-1945."  Family friends in England sent the book to me in the late 1980's shortly after its publication. 

Ashdean is Princess Metternich's autobiography entited, "Tatiana"?  Do you know where I might locate a copy of her book?  From Missie's book, it appears that while her Aunt, Princess Scherbatoff, continued to Paris with her daughters, her father, Prince Iilarion Wassitchikoff took up residence in Berlin.  I believe the reason for this was that the Prince wanted to stay closer to Poland in hopes of selling some of his holdings there and apparently he often took trips to Poland.  I can't quite remember how it all turned out, but just to say, if ever there was a book that kept you on the edge of your seat the entire time, it is Princess Marie Wassitchikoff's, "Berlin Diaries, 1942-1945."

You know I am so incredibly indebted to both you Mike and Ashdean for all for this information and I simply can't believe that the wife of Uncle Morgan's friend, Baron Ludinghausen-Wolff was the niece of Prince Iilarion Wassitchikoff and the cousin of Tatiana and Missie.  I must say it was very much the same in my mother's family...endless connections...I shall try to find that snap shot of my Mum on the Emery estate and post it.   

     
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« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2007, 12:53:15 PM »
"Tatiana" was orginally published in 1977 ( Heinemann or Collins?)but reissued with additional chapters some years later. Princess Metternich only died last year in Germany. The Wassitchikoffs mainly lived in Paris (where the sisters were great friends of Bebe Youssoupoff)between the wars although they lived the nomadic,threadbare lives of many emigrees.Prince Ilarion seems to have often been in the Baltic states where he had owned large estates....