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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #45 on: August 28, 2007, 02:58:31 PM »
she was a lovely lady  :)

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #46 on: August 28, 2007, 03:26:29 PM »
Well age catches up with us all. Maria may have lost some of her beauty, but she remained a formidable lady. How wonderful it would have been to have known her. Certainly as an older woman she was far more beautiful than her poor unmarried niece Princess Victoria. Only her mother could have loved her surely.

If you're not conventionally beautiful, only your mother loves you?  Victoria had many admirers - including male - during her life time.  Her aunt, the Empress Frederik, said 'of all my nieces, she is the one I love the best' and 'she is an angel of a girl'.

Back to MF - she and her sister Alexandra took great care of their looks and that, combined with good genes probably, saw to it that they looked youthful into their mature years, in my opinion.  They resisted the stodgy dishes of the day by eating lightly and both were fond of exercise.  I think the grief of the loss of loved ones took a toll on the looks of both women as they aged. 

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #47 on: August 28, 2007, 05:20:27 PM »
Lovely she may well have been. I think she was very charming and nobody's fool. To have been in such a position and had it all snatched away must have been very challenging. 

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #48 on: August 28, 2007, 08:03:46 PM »
Indeed ! Dagmar was the "clever daughter" according to her father.  :)

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #49 on: September 02, 2007, 02:44:07 AM »
Victoria of Wales was even admired by Nicholas II!

Queen Alexandra used "porcelain" on her face to get a smoother complexion.  From the photos of Dagmar and Alix together, it looks as if Dagmar may not have gone that route.

But I can see why they chose Helen Hayes to play her in the movie Anastasia.  There is a distinct resemblance.

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #50 on: September 02, 2007, 07:29:35 AM »
So many factors determine a person's aging process. I'm sure her genetic predispostion played a major role and she didn't worship the sun as is the trend now, and it's doubtful she smoked or drank excessively.

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« Reply #51 on: September 02, 2007, 07:54:11 AM »
Empress Marie Feodorovna's youthful looks were widely commented on during the early years of Nicholas II's reign. She was said to have had her face 'enamelled'  -  an apparently fearful process which involved the removal of the top layer of her facial skin. Her sister, Queen Alexandra, was also said to have endured the same process. The operation(s) were said to have been carried out either in Denmark during lengthy family visits or in the South of France. Exactly what this 19th century cosmetic surgery consisted of I have no idea. Perhaps another poster has information ?

Gladys, Duchess of Marlborough had a disastrous experience with a similar process in the early 20th century. Fanny Ward, the American actress, had better luck. But her apparent refusal to age made her a figure of fun in the 1920s  -  particularly in the classic book "Gentlemen Prefer Blondes" by Anita Loos.

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #52 on: September 02, 2007, 08:34:18 AM »
Enamelled - that is what I meant - not porcelain.

I didn't know that Dagmar did it, too, but since Queen Alexandra did, it only makes sense that her sister would have.

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #53 on: September 02, 2007, 08:59:24 PM »
Yes...But I am equally sure that Thyra DIDN"T do it.  :)

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #54 on: September 04, 2007, 02:08:05 AM »
Alix and Maria never had an illegitimate child either like Thyra.

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #55 on: September 04, 2007, 04:45:16 AM »
Well...Thyra at least was never described as "sexually cold".  :)

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #56 on: September 04, 2007, 11:53:25 AM »
Empress Marie Feodorovna's youthful looks were widely commented on during the early years of Nicholas II's reign. She was said to have had her face 'enamelled'  -  an apparently fearful process which involved the removal of the top layer of her facial skin. Her sister, Queen Alexandra, was also said to have endured the same process. The operation(s) were said to have been carried out either in Denmark during lengthy family visits or in the South of France. Exactly what this 19th century cosmetic surgery consisted of I have no idea. Perhaps another poster has information ?

Gladys, Duchess of Marlborough had a disastrous experience with a similar process in the early 20th century. Fanny Ward, the American actress, had better luck. But her apparent refusal to age made her a figure of fun in the 1920s  -  particularly in the classic book "Gentlemen Prefer Blondes" by Anita Loos.
I have, on a old news paper... It's said that thehe skin is partially removed, by a sort of peeling. Then, you "paint" the face with cosmetics (whites, pink) whose composition I forgot. It forms a layer, as porcelain and which, according to the newspaper, cracks! That is very agressive, and creepy IMO. The fashion came from England.
I would try to find the article (in French), if I have enough time...
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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #57 on: September 05, 2007, 03:41:43 AM »
Well they want their skin to glow like a pearl.  ;)

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #58 on: September 05, 2007, 08:30:57 AM »
Minnie was still beautiful even in old age.
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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #59 on: September 05, 2007, 08:55:41 PM »
The debate here is whether or not it was natural or enhansed by artifishual means.  :)