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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #60 on: September 06, 2007, 05:42:01 PM »
I always think Mae West was the ultimate in sadness ... trying to look in her 80s like she did when she was younger ... no chance for the poor dear to age gracefully

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #61 on: September 06, 2007, 08:32:05 PM »
I think Minnie would be vain enough to try the process...Which is why I think Thyra looked the most natural in old age (even though she is not that beautiful).  :)

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #62 on: September 06, 2007, 10:13:21 PM »
Well Thyra never held the same lofty position as her sister Maria Feodorovna. She was never on public show the same way.

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« Reply #63 on: September 07, 2007, 12:00:31 AM »
And I think Thyra preffered it that way. However her sweetness captivated old Emperor Franz Joseff, who always opened the court ball with her in Vienna (if she was there and Sisi absent-which was frequent).  :)

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #64 on: September 07, 2007, 12:01:18 PM »
well Thyra was a King's daughter and the wife of the pretender to the defunct throne of Hanover as well as being Duke of Cumberland .. hardly a woman of no importance

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« Reply #65 on: September 07, 2007, 06:54:08 PM »
As those two old hoary chestnuts say:  "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"  and "beauty is only skin deep"

In Queen Alexandra's case and in Empress Marie's case, if the peel was truly a deep one, then I guess that both of those old statements are accurate.

And it is true that women and even a lot of men today will have chemical peels to look younger. It has to do with the youth oriented business world.  No longer is age appreciated as wisdom, but youth is worshiped as vitality and ability.

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #66 on: September 08, 2007, 08:56:22 AM »
As those two old hoary chestnuts say:  "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"  and "beauty is only skin deep"

In Queen Alexandra's case and in Empress Marie's case, if the peel was truly a deep one, then I guess that both of those old statements are accurate.

And it is true that women and even a lot of men today will have chemical peels to look younger. It has to do with the youth oriented business world.  No longer is age appreciated as wisdom, but youth is worshiped as vitality and ability.

...I can't agree with you more, Alixz. Contrary to current society's fascination with youth and looking young, I firmly believe that I've "earned" my crow's feet, smile/frown lines, etc., etc.

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #67 on: September 08, 2007, 09:07:44 AM »
Yes the obsession with youth is distinctly detrimental to a healthy society.

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #68 on: September 09, 2007, 09:25:23 PM »
Most easily addictive for former beauties like Dagmar & Alexandra.  :(

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #69 on: September 18, 2007, 02:39:56 PM »
I've read that after Nicky became Tsar, Minnie was so afraid to loose her place because of Alix that she went to Paris and made a lifting. At this time it was a very long and painful operation. Is anybody know more about it. Is that true? It could explain her look young, in some photos she looks even younger than Alix!
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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #70 on: September 18, 2007, 07:31:43 PM »
The rumour was that both sister did it... :o

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #71 on: September 18, 2007, 07:46:25 PM »
I have never read anything about any of this. It may well be complete fabrication.

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #72 on: September 18, 2007, 07:49:49 PM »
The other thing to remember is that many photos were touched up to hide the process of becoming older.

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #73 on: September 19, 2007, 12:22:28 AM »
I think it has a gain of turth in it, especially if you think Alix would try the peeling process. The knife sounds much less hassle.  :)

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, her youthful features & the ageing process
« Reply #74 on: September 19, 2007, 03:49:59 AM »
Re the comment on Mae West:

Mae West was apparently 43 when she made her first film. This means she was over fifty when she made "The Heat's On" in 1943.
She did not appear on the big screen again until 1967/8 when she made "Myra Breckinridge". I saw this film in London when it first came out. I well remember the roar of applause from the packed audience on her first entrance. She looked, sounded and acted remarkably well. The film itself was savaged by the critics, but I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed it despite its flaws. The actress' next film "Sextette" was a different matter and I am sorry she was persuaded to make it. She certainly didn't need the money.

I also saw Marlene Dietrich in her stage act in 1962 or 1963 and again in London in 1966. For those who never saw her live on stage, I must tell them that the combined effect of cosmetics, foundation garment and superb lighting  -  plus her talent and undoubted charisma, was devestating. Everyone knew, of course, that they were being 'taken in', but quite honestly no-one cared. What one saw was magical. Later, at the stage door among the crowds, a close-up examination revealed the wear and tear that the lighting had concealed. Again, no-one cared. Biographies written after her death well describe the pain and discomfort she endured to maintain her stage appearance and the illusion of beauty. When the effort became too great, she simply retired to her Paris apartment and refused public appearances. The lady well-knew the value of her own 'legend'.