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Marie Feodorovna, Alexander III and Nicholas (Nixa)
« on: February 23, 2005, 03:02:01 PM »
I have read a lot of romanov books saying that Nicky was the first tzar to be faithful to his wife. What about Alexander III? I know that he and minny didnt start as a love match,but he still loved her eventually. Did he cheat like all the previous tzars?

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, Alexander III and Nicholas (Nixa)
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2005, 03:35:49 PM »
From the books I have read they all point to the fact that he was quite faithful.  Alexander III and Nicholas II seem to be the only Tsars who where faithful.  For Alexander III maybe the way his father treated his wife Tsarina Marie by having his mistress living in the palace caused Alexander III to forgo such a notion plus his love for his wife and family. :)

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, Alexander III and Nicholas (Nixa)
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2005, 06:36:02 PM »
Actually,
I think I read somewhere that he was not as faithful as many historians and authors thought. I have to go through my books but I'm sure I read that.

No names were given, but I do remember reading on his non meaningful flings.

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, Alexander III and Nicholas (Nixa)
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2005, 08:12:57 PM »
This was discussed once on this board, but for the life of me, I can't find where  :(. By all accounts I read, he was. But in the above mentioned discussion, Greg King (I think) wrote that he has seen some rare or non-published documents in which someone in Aiii's entourage wrote about him sneaking in some woman. But as ashanti01 said, seems to have been some non meaningful fling. At any rate he must have been very discreet about any "flings" for most historians to claim he was scrupulously faithful.
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Re: Marie Feodorovna, Alexander III and Nicholas (Nixa)
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2005, 09:36:01 PM »
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I have read a lot of romanov books saying that Nicky was the first tzar to be faithful to his wife. What about Alexander III? I know that he and minny didnt start as a love match,but he still loved her eventually. Did he cheat like all the previous tzars?


Despite the existence of some obscure allegations that always seem to surround such figures, Alexander III was faithful to his wife. This firm belief in the sanctity of his marriage flowed to his son Nikolai II. :)


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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2005, 11:37:46 PM »
Found some information on the thread
written in the previous link posted.

"I have seen a couple of accounts/hints that Alexander III did in fact have a mistress.  One reference came in some unpublished family correspondence I read 3-4 years ago, though it wasn't specific; then, there are allegations that he had an affair with Italian opera singer Lucia Bellhora (he certainly showered her with expensive gifts in the late 1880s and early 1890s while she was in Petersburg); and finally, if I recall, in a set of German diplomatic memoirs published just after the turn of the century, the author, who was at Skernevitski in Poland attending the 3 Emperors' Conference there, makes reference to a mistress being smuggled in to visit Alexander III.  I can't say I know much more than that, or even how reliable/unreliable the assertions might be-they could simply be gossip.  And I don't know if all 3 are in fact referencing Bellhora.  But at the very least there have been allegations-I've just never been interested enough to pursue it and see if there is any proof or evidence to dismiss the stories.

Greg King "

It appears any fling AIII had was just that, a fling, but a very hush hush fling. Perhaps one of the most discreet Tsars I have to say.

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, Alexander III and Nicholas (Nixa)
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2006, 12:43:08 PM »
First point: I like very much Minnie. I´m triying to find the bio Little Mother of Russia, a book that is not available at this moment.

As far as I know, here in Spain never was published a bio about Minnie, so I hope that I will find, someday, a book in english.

I suppose there are some people with a great knowledge concerning Minnie, so I hope you could tell me...what were her feelings during the illness of Nixa, the death of Nixa and the engagedment to Sacha. Please, tell me...


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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2006, 04:14:04 PM »
"before I had even finished what I had to say, Minnie threw her arms around my neck and started crying. I, too could naturally not hold back tears... We talked and reminisced a great deal about Nixa and our memories and our memories of him" , Alexander about their Engagement (from "The Camera and the Tsars")

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, Alexander III and Nicholas (Nixa)
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2006, 05:51:16 PM »
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First point: I like very much Minnie. I´m triying to find the bio Little Mother of Russia, a book that is not available at this moment.

This bookseller in the UK has one:
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Re: Marie Feodorovna, Alexander III and Nicholas (Nixa)
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2006, 12:14:04 PM »
Hello everyone. :)
In her diary for the 12.(russian 25.) of april 1919, during the escape from Russia, The Dowager Emperess was in Malta and she writes:
" For me, always a painful, cruel day of memories. 54 years ago, in Nice, where my belowed , unforgettable Nixa passed away, holding my hand to his end! How was I desperate then, I beived, and felt, that the happiness of my life was put out and had been crushed for ever, and only Our Lord turned everything to the best, and gave me so much happiness thereafter, through his loving brother, my owh blessed angel Sasha."
This shows that even if the life of The Dowager Emperess was on a dramatic culmination,(lost her country and closest family) she never forgot what happened so many years ago.
Best regards Adam.

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, Alexander III and Nicholas (Nixa)
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2006, 06:16:38 PM »
Is this from the diary now published in Denmark ?

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« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2006, 02:02:13 AM »
Most likely.

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, Alexander III and Nicholas (Nixa)
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2006, 02:13:41 AM »
I think was also published in Russia too...but not in English... :(

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« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2006, 03:42:29 AM »
Yes, Eric, it's that Diary, I don't know if it's translated to any other language.
Best regards Adam.

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Re: Marie Feodorovna, Alexander III and Nicholas (Nixa)
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2006, 03:43:57 AM »
That diary is translated only into Russian.
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