Well...I am not punishing you for holding a different view than mine. Perhaps you are right about Toria too. But my view is that without much evidence to back it up, it did not hold much water in adiscussion that is based upon facts and evidence that is available. Also I did not hold the relatives s card to dispel what you believe. You have your right to believe in whatever you believe, while I have mine. I guess I too fall into the catagory of pitying "Poor Toria" since that seems vto be the family's verdict on her. Just because she was unmarried did not make her boring. In fact she was quite a jokester and her daily phone calls to her brother made him laugh and forget the cares of the world for awhile. George V was genuinely distrought when Toria passed away and died soon after. She to me is a charecter who could offered so much more, if only circumstances have been different.