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Re: Queen Marie of Romania--alleged affairs & questioned paternity of children
« Reply #480 on: November 19, 2011, 09:59:21 AM »
I think this is the ultimate proof that Ferdinand actually was Mignon s father. PCDF got this image on  sale this week

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Re: Queen Marie of Romania--alleged affairs & questioned paternity of children
« Reply #481 on: November 19, 2011, 11:18:39 AM »
There certainly appears a strong resemblence, but I wouldn't say it constituted 'proof'.  However, with regard to Eric's earlier statement that Mignon was "either Grand Duke Boris or Zizi's [child]", I have to express some reservations as in Hannah Pakula's book Boris appears to be as absent from this particular scandal as he is in 'Dearest Missy'.

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Re: Queen Marie of Romania--alleged affairs & questioned paternity of children
« Reply #482 on: November 19, 2011, 01:22:16 PM »
In the Pakula book, it was stated that Missy told King Carol that it was Boris. In the "Dearest Missy" book, it is clear that Zizi was the father, as far as Missy herself was considered. Her guilt was the proof. Logic merits that. If she could carry off the child as Nando's, she would not have even considered an abortion (in her letter to Ducky). Ducky decided to tell their mother about that as she could not deal with it. It was especially jarring to Ducky since she was trying to get pregnant, as she was pressured from grandmama's camp to give Hesse a male heir. 

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Yes. I think it may be deliberate. The letters I heard from John Wimbles (which Diana paid a great tribute to at the end of the book) were more explicit. She blamed Missy for not listening to her and but as the book shows she was the one who went in and rescue Missy from a desperate situation. The Pakula book states that Missy approached King Carol I stating that she was caring Boris's child (even though the most recent lover was Zizi). It also made Missy's later relationship with her son Carol more tragic, since she was not so tolerant about his weakness in the flesh. A trait that he shared with his mother.  

What all of the cross referencing (i.e., Nando, Boris, ZiZi, Ernie, Kyril., etc) make clear was that there was so much double dealing, self deception, and the expedient covering of tracks to survive with respect to "Missy's" & "Ducky's" convoluted personal affairs that it is all but impossible to discern which version of events is the truth. DNA would determine paternity but not much else.

A royal mess.

It's difficult to determine paternity. Children can look like neither of their natural parents or look the spitting image of an adoptive parent. The Romanov family siblings were light and dark haired/features interchangeably. Examples: Alexander 111 and the Grand Duke Serge did not share a physical resemblence--nor the Grand Duchess Olga & Tatiana. The Tsarvich Alexis didn't particularly look like either of his parents.

It's possible "Missy" sought an abortion because she panicked and wasn't sure who the father was. If Ferdinand didn't know for certian whether he could claim paternity, how could his wife?

The correspondence between "Missy" & VM would be extremely insightful, but even more fascinating would be a series of volumes devoted to the letters of Marie Alexandrovna and all of the Coburg daughters until her death post World War One/Russian Revolution, and continuing until Marie of Romania's demise on the eve of World War Two.

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Well...It was Missy who had the affair. Pretty sure she felt certain by way of perhaps calculation of days, it cannot be Nando's. I think it was even much greater on his part to accept the children as his own. He treat those in question like those he knew for sure (Elisabetta & Carol)....the same.