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Empress Elizaveta Alekseevna, wife of Alexander I
Belochka:
There seems to be very little information about the two daughters who were born to Elizaveta Alexeevna.
Grand Duchess Maria b. 8.07.1800 in Tsarskoe Selo - died 12.05.1808 in SPb.
Grand Duchess Elizaveta b. 15.11.1806 in SPb - died 12.05.1808 in SPb.
There are strong inferences that both these girls were not Alexander's biological children. G.D.'s Marie's father was supposed to be Adam Czartoryski.
Alexander had 9 illegitimate children from 5 different women who were his lovers.
If we can accept these hypotheses then Alexander and his estranged spouse had no biological children together. The problem was compounded by the fact that there was no legitimate male heir to succeed Alexander I.
All my references are silent with regard to causes of death for either of the two Grand Duchessses.
nerdycool:
Yes, I agree that there isn't very much information about these two young Grand Duchesses. I couldn't find anything about them except their dates of birth and death. They both died within two years of birth, so one can expect that they died from a childhood illness like the measles or chicken pox, or took exceptionally ill to the flu or something else. Remember, back then, it was more common for children to not survive childhood due to the lack of medical knowledge and other factors involved.
The dates of their deaths above are slightly off according to the reference I used. They did not die on the same day in the same year.
Romanov, Marie Alexandrovna
Born: 29 MAY 1799
Died: 8 JUL 1800
Romanov, Elizabeth Alexandrovna
Born: 15 NOV 1806
Died: 12 MAY 1808
It doesn't say which calendar was used in determining these dates.
http://www3.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal01296
The link is to a site which takes a long time to load... be patient!
And while looking around, I didn't find any mention of Price Adam Czartoryski being the father of Grand Duchess Maria. I did find however, that he was indeed the lover of Empress Elizabeth Alexeyevna, but not until after the deaths of the Grand Duchesses. Prince Czartoryski was also a friend of Tsar Alexander I. He wrote some memoirs titled, Memoires et correspondence avec l'empereur Alexandre I. (Paris, 1887, -2 vols.)
http://www.xenophongi.org/rushistory/rulers/aleksandr1.htm
Belochka:
Hi nerdycool,
I went back to my reference about the D.O.B. of G.D. Maria. The dates are as provided lists all the Romanov Rulers. The website from which I printed the notes (in August of 2003) seems not to be available at the moment..
However Troyat in Alexander I does accord with the dates you give @ p 44 for G.D. Maria.
The inference about the possible paternity of Adam Czartoryski is illustrated at pp 44 - 45. The words the author used were ... now Adam C.'s career was definitively compromised.
The following Royal Genealogy site does not list any female children for Alexander I at:
http://ftp.cac.psu.edu/~saw/royal/x01.html
So the mystery deepens a bit further
;)
nerdycool:
Hmm.... that's very interesting. Things like this is what makes historians scratch their heads and go off looking for the real answers. Lol.... only if I could just go back in time to find out what really happened..... ;D
Belochka:
Its very fustrating when there is so much conflicting information. For us who can only compare the various pieces of information can only hope that we are reasonably close to some truths.
;)
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