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Did Rasputin plan...
« on: April 05, 2005, 11:48:52 AM »
...the fall of the Imperial family, or at least the tsar at the time?

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Re: Did Rasputin plan...
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2005, 11:52:49 AM »
Not in the slightest. Not at ALL, and quite the opposite. Where would you have gotten such an idea?

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Re: Did Rasputin plan...
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2005, 11:54:40 AM »
Some book I read - can't remember which, as I've read too many about the Imperial family. :P

If he didn't plan to do it, do you still think he was a major factor in it?

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Re: Did Rasputin plan...
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2005, 02:25:23 PM »
I believe he was a factor. Not a major one, but still a factor. The Revolution was coming before NII was given the crown

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Re: Did Rasputin plan...
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2005, 02:55:57 PM »
He wrecked the image of the Imperial family. That didn't help things. ::)

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Re: Did Rasputin plan...
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2005, 02:58:36 PM »
True, and that is why he is a factor. But I don't think it was a large factor.

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Re: Did Rasputin plan...
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2005, 03:19:09 PM »
He influenced the Empress for the worse. That didn't help either. Nor did his taking over of court life... One could go on. At any rate, it's only too bad he was not assassinated sooner, or the Imperial family might have been saved.

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Re: Did Rasputin plan...
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2005, 03:39:34 PM »
Do you think if Rasputin wasn't a factor of the lives of the last IF, there would be no revolution?

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Re: Did Rasputin plan...
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2005, 03:53:59 PM »
Oh no. I didn't say that. I said they *might* have been saved. With Rasputin so defacing the Imperial family, they were destined to disaster; without his input, they may have lived on.

I personally think that Nicholas II made a poor tsar, and he did not help himself. The Imperial family do not seem to have know *how* to help themselves, from what I can tell. Take the Duma, for example. That could have helped them, but Nicholas made it a failure.

I agree, Rasputin was not the only factor. However, I do think he was a major factor.
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Re: Did Rasputin plan...
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2005, 04:46:29 PM »
He may have been a factor as far as their popularity was concerned in the cities, in particular St Petersburg. However, from what I have read the moujiki had a different impression of him - I am sure I read that after Rasputin was killed the feeling was "The only one of us to be close to the Imperial Family, and they (that is, the Nobility) have killed him."

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Re: Did Rasputin plan...
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2005, 04:49:49 PM »
Nicky's character was amazing. He was a great family man, but alas, he wasn't the best Tsar. A great way to get to know all the theories behind the Revolution and what caused them is to read up on some books that are more recent.  FOTR is amazing, I recommend checking out the book section of the forum. Many jewels to be found there  :)

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Re: Did Rasputin plan...
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2005, 05:17:59 PM »
Yes, I have read quite a few books. Have lost count. ::)

Nicholas certainly was a good family man but he did not fit being tsar so well. He was out-of-touch with the people. Many thought his brother (forget which one) should replace him at the time.