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Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch, his wife Audrey Emery, and descendants
« Reply #420 on: April 24, 2010, 05:09:50 PM »
I will try to find now

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Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch, his wife Audrey Emery, and descendants
« Reply #421 on: June 08, 2010, 10:51:36 PM »


This is definitely NOT Dmitri. The two men in this photograph are Vladimir, the son of Mathilde Kschessenka, and Feorodr Alexandrovich, son of Alexander Mikhailovich.

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Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch, his wife Audrey Emery, and descendants
« Reply #422 on: June 08, 2010, 10:58:07 PM »
That is DEFINITELY Dmitry. By the way son of Mathilde hadn't such "sacks" under his eyes,but Dmitriy had. As well as his sister Marie in her later years.

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Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch, his wife Audrey Emery, and descendants
« Reply #423 on: June 09, 2010, 12:21:37 AM »


This is definitely NOT Dmitri. The two men in this photograph are Vladimir, the son of Mathilde Kschessenka, and Feorodr Alexandrovich, son of Alexander Mikhailovich.

According to Wikipedia the man on the right is Prince Dmitri Alexandrovich of Russia (15 August 1901 – 7 July 1980) was a son of Grand Duke Alexander Mikhailovich of Russia and Grand Duchess Xenia Alexandrovna of Russia. He was a nephew of Tsar Nicholas II of Russia. Wiki uses this same photo.

The man on left is Grand Duke Dmitri Pavlovich of Russia  (18 September 1891 – 5 March 1941)  
Grand Duke Dmitri Pavlovich was born at Ilinskoe near Moscow, the second child and only son of Grand Duke Paul Alexandrovich and a grandson of Alexander II of Russia.   Dmitri Pavlovich's mother, Alexandra Georgievna of Greece was a daughter of George I of Greece and his Queen consort Olga Konstantinovna of Russia. As such, he was also a first cousin of Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh. Dmitri and his sister Maria were mostly raised by their uncle and aunt, Grand Duke Sergei Alexandrovich of Russia and his wife, Elizabeth, the elder sister of Tsarina Alexandra.

Someone has stated that the man on the right is Prince Feodor Alexandrovich of Russia (23 December 1898 – 30 November 1968) was a son of Grand Duke Alexander Mikhailovich of Russia and Grand Duchess Xenia Alexandrovna of Russia. He was a nephew of Tsar Nicholas II of Russia

This is what I found concerning the identity of these two men.  Have we got it or not?
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Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch, his wife Audrey Emery, and descendants
« Reply #424 on: June 09, 2010, 01:39:14 AM »
GD Dmitri P died in 1942 not 1941

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Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch, his wife Audrey Emery, and descendants
« Reply #425 on: June 16, 2010, 10:31:22 AM »
Well my mistake if I am wrong, I don't think it looks very characteristic of him.

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Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch, his wife Audrey Emery, and descendants
« Reply #426 on: June 20, 2010, 12:01:14 AM »
I have two contributions to make:

RE the photo above of the two men the gentleman on the left is Vladimir the son of Kchessinska--refer to her book and note that both she and her son had pronounced circles under their eyes; in addition he had a large nose.

RE the gentleman on the right I'm satisfied that he's a Michaelovichi.

Secondly regarding comments about how alone Dmitri Pavlovich was in his lifetime--spend a moment remembering that in the rush to save his mother the infant was placed aside in blankets. Assumed to be dead or dying this infant drew his first breath alone and in moving his limbs caught the eye of a nurse. That's a terrible loneliness to begin your life and the
loss after loss of family and friends to death and marriage must have scarred him. This a psychological viewpoint although the tuberculosis was hereditary and rampant in royalty.
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Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch, his wife Audrey Emery, and descendants
« Reply #427 on: June 20, 2010, 08:23:08 AM »
Not Mikhailovichi but Alexandrovich ;-)

It could be ova since he had a bit of resemblance to Dmitri

Here a picture of Dmitri in the same period, posted in this very same topic by Alexandre

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj213/Alexandre64_2007/Paley/Dimitri%20and%20maria/escanear0036lz21.jpg

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Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch, his wife Audrey Emery, and descendants
« Reply #428 on: June 20, 2010, 08:37:57 PM »
Wonderful photo--thanks.

Now as to the Michailovichi vs the Alexandrovichi I understood the whole slew of descendents from Michael Pavlovich, Viceroy of the Caucasus were known by the patronymic Michailovichi. Nicholas, Sergei, Anastasia, Alexander, etc. I believe Prince Nicholas Romanovich is still considered a Nicholaivich.

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Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch, his wife Audrey Emery, and descendants
« Reply #429 on: June 21, 2010, 08:06:21 AM »
Well. since Dmitri is son of Alexander Mikhailovich he s an Alexandrovich but from the Mikhailovichi branch. ;-)

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Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch, his wife Audrey Emery, and descendants
« Reply #430 on: August 24, 2010, 08:12:55 AM »
Young GD Dimitri Pavlovich
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Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch, his wife Audrey Emery, and descendants
« Reply #431 on: August 26, 2010, 07:55:11 PM »
Dimitri Pavlovich in British uniform (I must say he looked much much better in Russian:-))


 It's a quite clear to me that this picture was taken in the same day and place as this one, which I posted on APF long time ago (and saw here repeated, of course).

http://yfrog.com/mwnatdimitrj   (Dmitri with Natasha Brasova , England 1919).

Even the dog is the same.;-)


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Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch, his wife Audrey Emery, and descendants
« Reply #432 on: August 27, 2010, 03:28:42 AM »
'Dimitri Pavlovich in British uniform (I must say he looked much much better in Russian:-))'

It doesn't help that the uniform isn't a very good fit. The trousers are too short and the tunic is baggy. Could it have been made for someone else or simply done in a hurry?

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Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch, his wife Audrey Emery, and descendants
« Reply #433 on: August 27, 2010, 11:31:22 AM »

GD Dmitri next to Nicholas II

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Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch, his wife Audrey Emery, and descendants
« Reply #434 on: September 09, 2010, 04:18:20 AM »
I just read the article about his last days and it was all so very heartbreaking. He was really struggling to survive. :( hopefully a detailed book on his life will come out soon. ill be the first in line to get it!

In memory of Grand Duke Dimitri! The man had style.