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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2005, 11:01:25 AM »
Ahhh wow Sveta. Thank you soooo much this is just what I was looking for. I think she was actually quite pretty as a young girl.

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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2005, 11:01:54 AM »
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Although I was kinda hoping it was Pilar as there seem to be less photos of her floating around.

Pilar died when was 18 years-old, in 1879. If you know the date of this photo, we can answer if it is Pilar or Eulalia.

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« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2005, 11:06:08 AM »
Yeah I guess because she died so young is the reason there seem to be less pictures of her. At least I have not been able to find them.

I do not know the date of this photo though, unfortunatly. I am starting to think it is Eulalia instead. ?.

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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2005, 11:16:45 AM »
I think is Eulalia too. Look at this photo and compare the round face between the 2 women - I think they are the same person: Eulalia.

King Alfonso XIII with his aunt Eulalia.



(It is not the 1st time I found errors at Corbis)

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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2005, 12:39:43 PM »
Yes thanks for posting that pic GD. It does seem like it is really Eulalia in the Corbis pic. I have seen a number of errors on there as well.

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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2005, 03:38:19 PM »
Thanks so much for so many pictures!Does la chata means the one who likes to talk much and gossip(that is what I call my spanish knowlege  ;) )?If someone has some [ortraits of their husband it would be very much interesting to see them(especially the colour ones)!

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« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2005, 07:18:28 PM »
Yes, thank you all for posting these pictures....
I dont know what all these spanish nicknames mean...

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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2005, 08:46:03 AM »
Did Infanta Isabella have children? What family in Europe did she marry in to?
Isn't Infanta Eulalia Princess Beatrice's mother-in-law.

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« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2005, 11:19:12 AM »
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Did Infanta Isabella have children? What family in Europe did she marry in to?
Isn't Infanta Eulalia Princess Beatrice's mother-in-law.


Yes Eulalia is Baby Bee's mother in law. Her eldest son Alfonso married Beatrice.

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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2005, 11:44:51 AM »
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Did Infanta Isabella have children? What family in Europe did she marry in to?
Isn't Infanta Eulalia Princess Beatrice's mother-in-law.


Infanta Maria Isabel Francisca de Asis Cristina Francisca de Paula Dominga  (1851-1931). She married Prince Gaetano of Bourbon-Two Sicilites, Count di Girgenti. It doesn't appear they had any issue as he only 3 years after their marriage. Some of Isabel's jewels passed to the present Queen Sophia of Spain.
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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2005, 11:59:26 AM »
List of Isabella II's children. She had a few sons but only Alfonso survived to adulthood.

1) Fernando, Prince of the Asturias (b.and d. 11 Jul 1850)

2) Infanta Maria Isabel Francisca de Asis Cristina Francisca de Paula Dominga (1851-1931); m.1868 Prince Gaetano of Bourbon-Two Sicilies, Count di Girgenti (1846-1871)

3) Infanta Maria Cristina  (5 Jan 1854-7 Jan 1854)

4) Alfonso XII Francisco de Asis Fernando Pio Juan Maria de la Concepcion Gregorio Pelayo (became King on 29 Dec 1874) (1857-1885); m.(1) 1878 Infanta Mercedes d'Orléans (1860-1878); (2) 1879 Archduchess Maria Cristina of Austria (1858-1929)

5) Infanta Maria de la Concepción Francisca de Asis Isabel Luisa Antonia de Padua Estefania Maria del Olvido Filomena Francisca de Paula(1859-1861)

6) Infanta Maria del Pilar Berenguela Isabel Francisca de Asis Cristina Sebastiana Gabriela Francisca Caraciola Saturnina (1861-1879)

7) Infanta Maria de la Paz Juana Amelia Adalberta Francisca de Paula Juana Bautista Isabel Francisca de Asis (1862-1946); m.1883 Ludwig Ferdinand of Bavaria (1859-1949)

8)Infanta  Maria Eulalia Francisca de Asis Margarita Roberta Isabel Francisca de Paula Cristina Maria de la Piedad (1864-1958); m1886 Antonio d'Orléans, Duke de Galliera (1866-1930)

9) Infant Francisco de Asis Leopoldo (1866-1866)
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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #41 on: April 01, 2005, 07:38:16 PM »
What kind of life did Isabella had after the death of her husband?Did she had any relationships?

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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #42 on: April 04, 2005, 10:23:22 PM »
Was'nt Marie Antoinetts' great nephew in lovw with one of her daughters?

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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #43 on: May 11, 2005, 08:07:57 AM »
I'm Spanish and Isabella II remains one of the most unpopular Spanish moanrchs in Modern History (not counting her own father Ferdinand VII, Alfonso XIII and her grandfather Carlos IV). After her abdication and Spain's "false" meddling with Republicanism (I say False because most members of Parliament were Monarchists and the eventually voted for a Monarch, her son, to occupy the vacant throne after Amadeo of Savoy's abdication), she exiled herself in Paris in the Basiliewsky Palace, which was then baptised as the "Palacio de Castilla". Her youngest children, namely Eulalia and Pilar, had a better level of French than of Spanish since they were practically brought up in France (Pilar died young, but Eulalia married an Orléans cousin; her memoirs -written in Spanish- are full of errors, "contaminated" by French mistakes). Queen Isabel returned very seldom to Spain and did not really approve of her son Alfonso XII's marriage to his cousin Mercedes of Orléans. She much preferred his second wife, the dry Cristina of Austria, and was very close to her son's grandchildren after his death in 1885. Her death was much noticed in Spain (1904) but remains one of the alrgest headaches for us Spanish students :P

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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #44 on: May 11, 2005, 08:46:04 AM »


Queen Isabella said she wasn't disgusted by Mercedes, but that she would never give in to the presence of the Montpensiers. Because of that she refused to attend the ceremony. Las Cortes (the Spanish Parliament) also had to approve the marriage between Alfonso and Mercedes. Many deputies were not in favour of the marriage happening, but the argument was closed up when Claudio Moyano said something like this:

'' Well, lets discuss it then. But before we continue with this argument, I must advise the ''Cámara'' that I will not refer with any of my words to Her Royal Highness doña María de las Mercedes.''

There was a large pause after which Moyano continued:

''Doña Mercedes is absolutely out of discussion..., ¡because we can't discuss about angels!''

In the end everyone accepted the marriage after these words.

When Eulalia and Antonio were married, Alfonso had recently died, Isabella was quite depressed, it was a political necessity and Isabella had already made peace with Montpensier and Luisa Fernanda, although this peace was still weak.