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Branches of the Bourbon family
« on: March 16, 2005, 07:02:56 PM »
The Bourbon family is one of Europe's most prolific dynasties.

In 1700 the Dud d'Anjou succeeded as King Felipe V of Spain.  one of his sons receved the Dukedom of Parma as inheritace from his mother's family, Isabel Farnesio.  Our of this succession began the branch of Bourbon de Parme, better known in English as Bourbon-Parma.  This branch reigned over the Duchy of Parma in modern day Italy until 1860.  Branch of Bourbon-Parma.

A sub-branch of them succeeded to the Grand Ducal throne of Luxembourg in 1964, when Grand Duke Jean succeeded his mother Grand Duchess Charlotte, who was married to Prince Felix of Bourbon-Parma. Branch of Luxembourg.

Infante Carlos of Spain, was then made Grand Duke Tuscany when the Medici became extinct, his mother being the same Isabel Farnesio of Parma.  Carlos later on exchanged his grand ducal throne for that of Naples.  in 1759 whn his brother Ferdinand VI of Spain died childless, Carlos succeeded to the throne in Madrid, leaving on the Neapolitan throne his infant son Ferdinando, who was the thus the founder of the Bourbon-Two Sicilies branch. Branch of Bourbon-Two Sicilies.

Upon ascending the Spanish throne in 1759 Carlos III brought his children back to Madrid and they became the Spanish royal family - a fourth  branch now...are you counting...Branch of Spain.

Meanwhile in France Louis XIV was succeeded in 1715 by his great-grandson Louis XV, who was also a nephew of the Duc d'Anjou who in 1700 inherited the Spanish throne. Senior Bourbon Branch.

Louis XV's line continued to reign over France until 1792 when the revolution finally did away with the monarchy.  this branch was restored to the French throne in 1814 and lost it again in 1830, going into exile in Austria, where their last representative, the Count of Chambord, died childless in 1883.

In 1830 Charles X of France was overthrown.  The leaders of the uprising offered the crown to the King's cousin, the Duc d'Orléans, Louis-Philppe of "Bourbon-Orléans," who ruled until a revolution sent him into exile in 1848.  His descedants are considered now, at least by a majority of followers and all the royal house sof Europe, to be THE House of France. Branch of Orléans (France).

A grandson of Louis-Philippe, the Count d'Eu, married Princess Imperial Izabel of Brazil, and their descendants are the Imperial House of Brazil.  Branch of Orléans-Bragança.

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Re: Branches of the Bourbon family
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2005, 07:19:00 PM »
Hoew does Louis-Alphonse of Borbon (Born 1974) fit into this?

Is he an heir to the non-existant French Throne?

Who is the current Comte de Paris?  Which house or line of Bourbon is he from.

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Re: Branches of the Bourbon family
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2005, 07:25:25 PM »
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Hoew does Louis-Alphonse of Borbon (Born 1974) fit into this?

Is he an heir to the non-existant French Throne?

Who is the current Comte de Paris?  Which house or line of Bourbon is he from.

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Luis Alfonso de Borbón is a great-grandson (through a morganatic line) of King Alfonso XIII of Spain.  The French Legitimistes, who abhorr the House of Orléans, do not recognize them as France's royal family and instead have thrown their hat behind Luis Alfonso.

The Present Count of Paris is Monseigneur Prince Henri de France, born in 1933, eldest son of the late Count of Paris (Henri VI) who died in 1999 and was married to the former Princess Isabelle d'Orléans-Bragança (1911-2003), one of the most beautiful and fascinating royal women I have ever had the honor of meeting and interacting with.

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Re: Branches of the Bourbon family
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2005, 07:28:21 PM »
Wasn't Luis' mother Franco's grandaughter or am I hitting the burbons too hard.

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Re: Branches of the Bourbon family
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2005, 08:20:06 PM »
Yes María del Carmen Martínez-Bordíu was firstly married to don Alfonso de Borbón y Dampierre (1936-1989), eldest son of the Infante don Jaime of Spain from his morganatic wife, Emanuelle de Dampierre.

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Re: Branches of the Bourbon family
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2005, 06:25:02 AM »
Does Emanuelle's family belonge to nobility and if does what titles does her family have?

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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2005, 06:39:38 AM »
I think she is Italian nobility.

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Re: Branches of the Bourbon family
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2005, 09:16:44 AM »
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Does Emanuelle's family belonge to nobility and if does what titles does her family have?


Her father was the Duke of San Lorenzo...old French noble family, with a Papal title.

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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2005, 09:39:56 AM »
I think I read that she had a rather problematic relationship with her mother-in-law Victoria Eugenia. I saw her autobiography in a shop quite recently.

Was it her grandson who carried the casket with the supposed heart of the last Dauphin during the recent funeral service?

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Re: Branches of the Bourbon family
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2005, 09:43:36 AM »
Yes...that was a Legitimiste-organized event and the Orléans branch were not welcome, really.

Emanuela de Dampierre wrote an inflamatory book of memoirs in which she said abominable things about all her Spanish ex-in-laws...it was awful!

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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2005, 10:39:37 AM »
Her eldest grandson married recently somewhere in the Carribean...he wore a Court Uniform which didn´t really go down too well at the Zarzuela...needless to say no members of the present RF attended.

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Re: Branches of the Bourbon family
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2005, 10:49:37 AM »
He wore the uniform of the Order of Malta...the whole affair was disastrously organized.  His paternal grandmother, Emanuela de Dampierre, as invited without the invitation including her "faux" French titles, which made her decline her attendance.  All the leaders of the "Legitimiste" movement in France were not present either.

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Re: Branches of the Bourbon family
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2005, 10:49:38 AM »
My goodness, what a gaggle of Bourbons!  

First, I would like to express my appreciation for this new sub-topic, because the Bourbon dynasty and its various permutations are a subject of which I know very little.  I had a fairly general idea of the French Legitimist v. Orleans issue, but I know I have a lot to absorb here, which leads to my second question...

Can anyone recommend some good books worth reading on the Bourbons, both in general (probably a good place to start) or devoted specifically to one of the many branches?

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Re: Branches of the Bourbon family
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2005, 10:54:03 AM »
Theo Aronson's ROYAL VENDETTA and John Bergamini's THE SPANISH BOURBONS are great introductory books in English for the Spanish royal family.

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Re: Branches of the Bourbon family
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2005, 07:18:34 PM »
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Wasn't Luis' mother Franco's grandaughter or am I hitting the burbons too hard.

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Francisco Franco ---> Carmen Franco ---> Carmen Martinez Bordiu ---> Luis de Borbón