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Re: Branches of the Bourbon family
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2005, 08:14:33 PM »
I think that the one of the sons of pretender for a French throne married Countess Marie Liesse de Rohan-Chabot!Since this is not an ancient House of Rohan family(but Chabot relatives with the title of Duke for I think the head of the House),is marriage considered equal or not and why?Anybody knows?

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Re: Branches of the Bourbon family
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2005, 09:00:19 PM »
Marie-Liesse de Rohan-Chabot's marriage to the Duke of Angouleme is equal.  The couple have two children, a daughter and a son.

Marie-Liesse's grandfather is the Duke de Bauffremont-Courtenay, leader of the Legitimistes, supporters of Luis Alfonso de Borbón, in France.  Bauffremont was the arch-enemy of the late Count of Paris.

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Re: Branches of the Bourbon family
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2005, 03:19:59 AM »
Eudes of Angoulème and his wife Marie-Liesse have 2 children, a daughter Thérèse and a son Pierre.
Eudes' elder brother Jean, duke of Vendôme, is still unmarried. He was once engaged to princess Tatiana of Oldenburg (younger sister of Eilika, the archduchess Georg of Austria) but they broke off before the marriage took place.

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« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2005, 05:31:52 PM »
Is he dating now a noble born girl?Or not...  :(

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Re: Branches of the Bourbon family
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2005, 10:57:31 PM »
The engagement of the Duc de Vendôme came to a sad end.  Iyt would have been a wonderful dynastic alliance no doubt, but during the time between the engagement's announcement and the wedding date the couple realized there were too many insurmountable obstacles between them to make the marriage work.  End of story...

Monseigneur the Duc de Vendôme is not attached to anyoe at the moment.  I last saw him a few months ago and he remains a bachelor, dedicated to his various causes, charitable and political.

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Re: Branches of the Bourbon family
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2005, 03:46:40 AM »
Can anyone write anything about the descendants of Enrique María, Duke of Seville (1823-1870), younger brother of Isabel II's husban dplease? I've already noted that a few of them got shot during the Civil War in Spain but I'd like to know more about the others :) and if they're connected with Spain's nobility.

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Re: Branches of the Bourbon family
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2005, 06:27:55 AM »


Don Enrique de Borbón y Borbón, duque de Sevilla, killed in a duel against the Duc de Montpensier.

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Re: Branches of the Bourbon family
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2005, 06:29:24 AM »
A duel? That sounds very melodramatic! what year was it?
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« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2005, 06:36:51 AM »
HM King Juan Carlos at the funeral of his distant cousin Alfonso de Borbón-Medina, who died in a car accident earlier this year.

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« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2005, 06:40:47 AM »
The duel took place in 1870. For his action Montpensier lost any chance of becoming King of Spain in the palce of his sister-in-law the ex Queen.

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« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2005, 06:43:38 AM »
No doubt he regretted the duel then!
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« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2005, 06:52:11 AM »
I think he must have :D I don't think he meant to kill Enrique, but when it was done..

Here's a photo of the Duke of Santa Elena, another Bourbon, first cousin of the dead Alfonso de Borbón-Medina I mentioned above. He has three children and several of his family members were shot during the Spanish Civil War.


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Re: Branches of the Bourbon family
« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2005, 06:57:50 AM »
Where any of these distant cousins part of the Carlist claimant group?
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« Reply #28 on: August 18, 2005, 07:07:37 AM »

I don't think this part of the family ever got involved with Carlism... to start with, this Bourbons are not dynastic, as Enrique María's marriage to Elena de Castellví y Shelly was morganatic, thus preventing their issue to reign.

Enrique María was King Francisco de Asís's younger brother, so even when Enrique's relationship with the Royal Family was not a good one, himself being a liberal and "republican", I don't think he or his children would have never had sympathies with carlists!
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Re: Branches of the Bourbon family
« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2005, 09:16:45 AM »
The morganatic Sevilla descendants seem to have always been quite loyal to Kings Alfonso XII and XIII - hence the fact that they received ducal titles.  They formed part of the King's family instead of the Royal Family!

Today's Duchess of Santa Elena shares ancestry with some other prominent Spaniards like the Duchess of Alba, Princess Tessa de Baviera and the Duke of Santangelo y Maqueda, among many others.

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