TM King Felipe & Queen Letizia

[Prince_Lieven]

Is the King's official style King Juan Carlos or King Juan Carlos I?

[Grand_Duke]

Is the King's official style King Juan Carlos or King Juan Carlos I?

It is King Juan Carlos I.

[umigon]

Maybe that is why the actual king uses the name Juan Carlos I instead of Juan III!  

Indeed, Grand Duke, that is the precise reason why Juan Carlos uses his two first names instead of the more common Juan III!

[Prince_Lieven]

It is King Juan Carlos I.

This is quite unusual, is it not? Like, in the UK, Queen Victoria was styled 'Her Majesty Queen Victoria' not Victoria I. I thought you only counted the numeral after there had been more than one monarch of the same name. . .

[umigon]

Not in Spain, my dear friend. This is something that bothers me at times. I mean, in English, Lady Jane Grey was "Queen Jane", here in Spain we talk about Juana I.

Joan the Mad in Spanish is Juana I la Loca, the same way many other monarchs which haven't been followed by other monarchs with the same name have the number: Luis I, Urraca I, José I, Amadeo I, etc.


I suppose it is a different tradition!

[Prince_Lieven]

Not in Spain, my dear friend. This is something that bothers me at times. I mean, in English, Lady Jane Grey was "Queen Jane", here in Spain we talk about Juana I.

Joan the Mad in Spanish is Juana I la Loca, the same way many other monarchs which haven't been followed by other monarchs with the same name have the number: Luis I, Urraca I, José I, Amadeo I, etc.


I suppose it is a different tradition!

Thanks for explaining! As you say, a different tradition - just like the way Spanish people have two surnames!  

[cimbrio]

Don Juan was also called Juan Carlos, but he went by his first name. His son, who was called Juanito in the family, ascended the throne under the name of Juan Carlos I, I agree, to avoid confusion with his father AND the long dead carlist Juan III too! I personally doubt they'll go back to naming the child Alfonso. Fernando VII is so unpopular I wouldn't recomend it either, and I think Pelayo's an awful name. I'd settle for Luis (Luis II eventually), Felipe (VII) or another name that hasn't been used in Spain. I don't think naming the baby Carlos would fit at all sinc eit'd be Carlos V, the title used  by the first carlist claimant, and the same goes for Juan.

[umigon]

I hadn't thought about Luis, maybe too French though, but it would be a good option. Why not Alfonso? And Fernando, well I know that if Juan Carlos and Sofía had had another son they would have called him Fernando!

[cimbrio]

Didn't Alfonso XIII had a stillborn son (well, his wife) who was called Fernando? Anyay, I think there are far too many people alive in Spain who remmeber Alfonso XIII's disastrous reign, let alone his exile; I don't think he was an able monarch at all and had no charisma at all. I don't think an Alfonso XIV would sound suitable, it's as if the "Alfonso" era was over to me... Fernando's OK I guess, only I think ofFernando VII, another right a*****e; Luis sounds slightly French but people in Spain would actually discover there WAS a Luis I LOL I think it'd be a nice change frankly, it's be great if he could be born tomorrow, the day of Saint LOuis (b-day of Ludwig II of Bavaria hehehe) and patron saint of FRance...

[Grand_Duke]

More names:

Gonzalo
Francisco
Javier
Tiago (like Saint James of Compostela)

[Prince_Lieven]

What about a girl?

Isabel/Isabella
Maria
Sofia (after the Queen)
Luisa
Beatriz
Pilar
Cristina
Elena

Any of these sound plausible?

[cimbrio]

Again I don't know if they'd want another Isabel, just because loathed sabel II, bu you never know. Tiago I'm sure cna be rule dout, and the same as Javier unless there's a reason for it, but I think they'd stick to family names: Francisco, Mercedes, Sofía, Juan Carlos... I think perhaps we may rule out names of their nieces and nephews (Irene, Victoria, Juan, Felipe, Pablo and Miguel) though anything's possible... in the words of the Prime Minister, wait and see

[Grand_Duke]

The Spanish RF seems a very happy and balanced family! I like them very much.  
They are so different of the Windsors

[cimbrio]

I quite like them too, I can't stand the Windsors (at least the present Bourbons don't look like horses...). The Prince is quite handsome, and so is Letizia I think, so who knows if the next generations will be babes and hunks and not Infantes and Infantas LOL  

[Prince_Lieven]

Yes, Letizia is very pretty. Felipe is handsome, but a little . . . I don't know . . . melancholy looking for my tastes. But Queen Sofia is a very distinguished looking lady.