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« Reply #285 on: April 18, 2012, 11:57:14 AM »
Understandable. I had never even heard of him before, no idea who he is. I assume the son of one of the Infantas ?

  You are correct, Robert. To give the shortened version of his name, Don Felipe de Marichalar de Borbon is the son of the King's eldest daughter, HRH Infanta Elena, Duchess of Lugo. I believe that he attended school in England a year or so ago.  And Lucien is likewise correct: Don Felipe is not a HRH, but a HE (His Excellency).  
  As to how the somewhat unusual name "Froilan" fits into the picture:  It is indeed one of his names, after the name of the patron saint of Lugo.  Basicly the newsreporting use it to distinguish him from his uncle, the Prince of the Asturias, etc.  He is not called such within the Family.     Regards,  AP.
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« Reply #286 on: April 18, 2012, 12:21:27 PM »
The king did apologise today, but I think it is a bit late for that.
  As for blood sports and right wing royals. It is my understanding that bull fighting is rapidly loosing popularity. Some countries do not kill the animal, I think Portugal and Mexico. I could be mistaken but this is from memory of an article I read some time ago.
  I am against it, but the stag hunt is a bit different than hunting wild elephants.

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« Reply #287 on: April 18, 2012, 02:53:10 PM »
Hi,

I still say "Use a camera!!"........
One can still staulk their animals, be it elephants or stags, and just take a picture....  The thrill of the hunt is still there and nobody's hurt...
Bull fighting is barbaric - I once saw one, as a boy in the 50's, and was sick for 3 days...  Revolting....

I did not know that Froilan was not a prince - he and the parents are just stupid, no matter what title they have....

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« Reply #288 on: April 18, 2012, 03:26:26 PM »
And, he is not all that excellent if he shoots himself in the foot.

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« Reply #289 on: April 19, 2012, 04:06:01 AM »

I must apologise if my last post caused any offence, that is never my intention.

Of course its utterly deplorable that King Juan Carlos felt it was ok to hunt an endangered species, ( this is what I meant by 'medieval etc') and this seems to have appalled the Spanish as much as anybody else. However my understanding of his public apology had more to do with taking an expensive holiday at a time when most of his subjects are suffering acute financial hardship.

Hunting is an integral part of good estate management as many animals no longer have their natural predators. Its also a major part of mainstream culture in countries such as the United States and Canada. If its done responsibly and respectfully it can actually be a good thing. Then there is all the tradition and history that goes with it that shouldn't be lightly dismissed.

However for me there is a distinction between hunting and blood sports. I can understand that the deer/fox populations need to be kept in check etc but for me Stag hunting is not part of this as the hunted stag is always the deposed alpa male who is eeking out a living away from the new alpha male's herd. He is chased for several days by the dogs until he literally drops with exhaustion and stress. Its horrible and whilst of course I love my family I cannot share in their enjoyment of it, they see me as something of an eccentric and a traitor for my views.

I'm a vegetarian but this is entirely a reaction against the 'factory farming' of animals which is far, far, more cruel than hunting. Most people eat meat but are completely removed from the process of its production/cultivation. Of course 'Bullfighting' has nothing to do with either estate management or food production and so in my opinion is barbaric.

Whilst the King of Spain has shown himself to be arrogant and dispicable on a personal level, it shouldn't diminish his legacy of safe guarding Spain's peaceful transition to democracy. At the end of the day there's good and bad in everyone. My original point was that the elite are prone to a loss of perspective that they are beyond reproach as King Juan Carlos has just demonstrated.


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« Reply #290 on: April 19, 2012, 06:06:58 AM »
Understandable. I had never even heard of him before, no idea who he is. I assume the son of one of the Infantas ?

He is Infanta Elena's son from Jaime de marichalar,her former husband.

Bad boy Juanito's mea culpa:

http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=18-04-2012%20Hospital

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« Reply #291 on: April 27, 2012, 05:04:29 AM »
The King was taken to hospital again where he had emergency surgery last night to reduce the dislocation of his right hip after he tripled at the Palace during an Audience yesterday.HM was discharged again this morning.
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« Reply #292 on: April 27, 2012, 02:28:58 PM »
He really doesn´t seem to be very well at all.  The resemblance between him and his forebearer Carlos III in old age is astonishing.

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« Reply #293 on: May 12, 2012, 08:00:15 AM »
The news is that this couple is now completely estranged and that they haven´t shared the same bedroom for almost 35 years.  The King has apparently bedded 1000 + women over his lifetime.  The Queen it is said is more often in London or Greece than Madrid...

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« Reply #294 on: May 13, 2012, 06:59:12 AM »
This sounds like gossip to me, if things are so bad the press would have latched on long ago.

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« Reply #295 on: May 13, 2012, 12:44:33 PM »
I'm inclined to think that if King Juan Carlos really has slept with 1,000 women, he -  and they - have been remarkably discreet.

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« Reply #296 on: May 13, 2012, 02:13:47 PM »
The press has known all along, I am sure. Just that they have not used or exposed  the situtaiion  has been up to their discretion,. Same as in Sweden. Well, other countries as well.

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« Reply #297 on: May 14, 2012, 12:16:15 AM »
Up until recently the press has not touched the Royal Family, nor entered into commentary which could be anything other than flattering.  This have changed of late via the pecadillos of the Duke of Palma etc...  The Royal Family are now seen as fair game.  This story has been doing the rounds for a long time - this is the first time that the press has really entered into any detail on this particular matter.

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« Reply #298 on: May 14, 2012, 01:21:19 AM »
The Spanish press is one thing, but what about the press elsewhere?

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« Reply #299 on: May 14, 2012, 07:37:34 AM »
Up until recently the press has not touched the Royal Family, nor entered into commentary which could be anything other than flattering.  This have changed of late via the pecadillos of the Duke of Palma etc...  The Royal Family are now seen as fair game.  This story has been doing the rounds for a long time - this is the first time that the press has really entered into any detail on this particular matter.

Darius is right a few posts back,no rumours,but a reality bite since years.

On the marriage,arranged for the full 1000% by the ever megalo Queen Frederike,what does one expect!?
It was the last of the grand and loveless arranged marriages.It has long ended to be a marriage in any sense
except they have three children.An array of bedfilling has since then passed,the tart with the smart SWB name
finally broke him,or rather his hip,and the written diarrhea of syllables in papers hasn't stopped since.The papers lash out.
Gone is all the respect.

That,and the fact it becomes more and more clear the King is closer to the NOOS scandal "starring" Inaki then he'd liked all to know too,
it appears he himself is involved.Great,just what the spanish Monarchy needed,besides an Abdication of what has become the risée of the land.
How truly sad.
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