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Movies Titled "Anastasia"
« on: March 17, 2005, 06:02:14 PM »
This has always interested me, but would you guys be willing to add to the list of things that were messed up or completely wrong with either of the Anastasia films (the 1950s one with Ingrid Bergman and the 1997 cartoon). I've always been interested to know what the films messed up on historically. I suppose we could give the Ingrid Bergman film some slack because it was made when information about the Imperial family was limited due to the Communists, but I don't think there is any excuse for the '97 film to mess SO much up!

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Re: Movies Titled "Anastasia"
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2005, 06:16:49 PM »
Goofs for Anastasia 1997 animation movie

1) The dowager empress' wedding ring is shown on her third finger, left hand. In Russia at that time, married women wear their wedding bands on the third finger, right hand.

2) The Romanov family is said to have celebrated their 300th anniversary on the Russian throne in 1916, but actually, it was in 1913, since the first Romanov became czar of Russia in 1613.

3) St Petersburg was called Petrograd during the period of the Great War because of anti-German sentiment. Subsequently, the Communists renamed it Leningrad after the Revolution (it did not revert to its Tsarist name until 1991). And yet everyone in the movie was referring to the city as St. Petersburg.

4) Anastasia's last name should be Romanova not Romanov. Romanova is the feminine version.

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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2005, 03:32:12 PM »
The 1997 Movie

Anastasia is 8 at the time of the "300th celebration" in 1916. She should have been 15 at that time.

The girls are all featured as present at the ball celebrating the anniversary. They did not attend in real life.

They have Anastasia go to France to pursue her grandmother. The Dowager Empress was in Denmark, not France.

The movie seems to feature them living at the Catherine Palace. They lived at the Alexander Palace.

The Palace which Anastasia visits post-revolution is not one specific palace. It is a combination of the Catherine and Winter Palaces, which they used to make it seem larger.

The girls did not all have red-brown hair.

They make the the angry people surrounding the palace gates as this mini little mob-it was MUCH larger than that.

The picture gives the Dowager Empress was really a gift to her father.
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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2005, 09:53:50 PM »
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The girls are all featured as present at the ball celebrating the anniversary. They did not attend in real life.


Olga Nikolaevna did attend; the other girls didn't. :)
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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2005, 10:13:57 PM »
A VERY BIG goof in the Ingrid Bergman film: Anna Anderson never met the Dowager Empress - her grandmother (let alone get "recognized" by her). In the film they meet, talk, Anastasia gets recognized by her grandmother, they hug and cry, everyone lives happily ever after  ;)

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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2005, 10:14:45 PM »
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Olga Nikolaevna did attend; the other girls didn't. :)


somehow I managed to forget the word "all" in my last second sentence. Sorry about that, I know Olga did attend.

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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2005, 02:37:11 PM »
Goofs for Anastasia 1997 animation movie

1) Anastasia's fondest gift from her grandmother Empress Marie was a French porcelain doll and not the musical box, as the film shows.

2) The music box from "Anastasia" is modeled after a Faberge egg that in 1885 Alexander III purchased for his wife, Empress Marie!

3) The part about Rasputin coming to the palace and cursing the Romanovs with death within a year or 2.

4) The part about a little servant boy helping Anastasia and Dowager Empress Marie escape is totally untrue!

5) The part about Anastasia being an orphan and not knowing about her past: Anastasia died together with her family.  

6) When Anastasia was killed she was 17, not 8.

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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2005, 07:19:08 AM »
Don't they call Maria Fyodorovna a Grand Duchess?

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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2005, 12:37:15 PM »
No they do not.
They do call Anastasia a princess though.

Also in Anastasia the cartoon they make it seem like Rasputin was an enemy of the Inner Family. He was an enemy for their wellbeing, as far as popularity goes, but as far as I know most of the IF (meaning NAOTMAA) tolerated him.  
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Re: Movies Titled "Anastasia"
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2005, 05:59:11 PM »
Reminds me of the goofs in Apollo 13.
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2005, 06:08:39 PM »
A REALLY BIG goof in the 1997 cartoon is that Anastasia supposedly survived because she didn't make it to the train with her grandma and was knocked unconcious on the tracks! ::)

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« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2005, 11:56:50 AM »
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A REALLY BIG goof in the 1997 cartoon is that Anastasia supposedly survived because she didn't make it to the train with her grandma and was knocked unconcious on the tracks! ::)


Yes, thats a big one. But I don't think that it would be very good to have them all shot.  ;)

By the way... the dresses the GDs wore during the Prolouge scene, I don't think I've ever seen them before. Does anyone know if they were worn or did they even exist?

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« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2005, 01:26:11 PM »
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Yes, thats a big one. But I don't think that it would be very good to have them all shot.  ;)


True.  I think it was focused more for younger kids. :)

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Re: Movies Titled "Anastasia"
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2005, 07:32:55 PM »
Olga was the only one to attend the ball the movie portrays, so no, no dress exists for the younger girls. I don't remember all of a sudden whether the 300th celebration ball was a costume ball or not, but then there would only be one for Olga. I don't think it was however.





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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2005, 03:37:12 AM »
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Olga was the only one to attend the ball the movie portrays, so no, no dress exists for the younger girls. I don't remember all of a sudden whether the 300th celebration ball was a costume ball or not, but then there would only be one for Olga. I don't think it was however.


It wasn't--it was a normal dress ball.  Olga wore a pink chiffon gown with a silver ribbon in her hair and a single strand of pearls (this from Muriel Buchanan whose father was the British ambassador to Russia in those days).