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« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2006, 12:34:53 PM »
Fascinating information about the fair, grandduchessella . . . thank you for that excerpt, and also for the list of book titles! At some point I hope to read Eulalia's side of things. As I have found with Marie of Romania's writings, sometimes tone and style tell just as much about the writer as the content, and possibly more.

The subject of world's fairs is one that I think has some relevance to this website. They represented--or attempted to represent--the very best of various nation participants. But like royal pageantry, the story behind all the extravagance and show was--and is--the real story.

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« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2006, 09:06:53 PM »
I know someone is working on a book on Infanta Eulalia...Have to wait to see. However it will be in Spanish as well.  :(

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« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2006, 03:29:10 AM »
The Regent Queen Maria Cristina, knowing the problems in the marriage of the young couple, sended them to Cuba, Puerto Rico and Chicago in 1893, to represent de spanish crown, thinking that a trip would be a good thing for them.

The trip dured 80 days, and the Infanta Eulalia becamed very popular, she was brilliant.

But also, during this trip, in Cuba, she knew about the relations of her husband with a new mistress..."Carmela", Carmen Giménez-Florez y Brito, this woman was going  to be one of the causes of the ruin of the Infante D. Antonio.


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« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2006, 03:42:27 AM »
Yes and for his family as well.  >:( A most terrible goldigger ! Makes Wallis & Magda looked like Snow White. In the end poor Ali had very little to inherit and almost had to go to court to recover the money from that witch !
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« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2006, 05:51:44 AM »
One fact that i really don´t understand, it´s why the King (Alfonso XIII), acceded to gived her the title of Vizcountess of Termens, she was not descendent of the first Viscount , it´s clear, also it seems she payed a lot of money to have the title.

For Eulalia it has to be a big shock, and i understand her. In fact, it was Eulalia the aunt of the King, not Antonio, so...why Alfonso acceded to this, the title gived her the permision to accompanied Antonio to all the Oficial Acts in the Court.

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« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2006, 12:09:39 AM »
One reason they were not close friends... :(

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« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2006, 04:15:50 PM »
Alfonso knowed perfectly the problems of his aunt with the Infante. Even if Eulalia was the rebel of the family, even if she was not in good terms with him,...in my opinion Alfonso had not be very honest towards her.

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« Reply #37 on: August 27, 2006, 08:45:50 PM »
Infanta Eulalia stayed a lot in Paris after her disagreement with her nephew. I heard she lived out her last days in Irun (near the border) in a house her grandson Artfufo (youngest son of Bee & Ali) bought her.
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« Reply #38 on: August 29, 2006, 04:52:39 AM »
Yes she lived in Irun just in the border with France. All my family lives in San Sebastian, just 10Km. near Irun. My grand mother used to go to Irun, and she knew very well that house, even she saw the Infanta several times. I don´t know if the house still beeing there.

I belive that Eulalia was against the marriage between Alfonso and Ena , ¿is it true?. Perhaps this is the reason because Alfonso was so unkind with her....
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« Reply #39 on: August 29, 2006, 10:40:57 AM »
I don't think so...her books praise Ena to the skies. Also Eulalia was a liberal (against Alfonso's mother Queen Maria Cristina who was a conservative). If you read her book "Thread of Life" you can understand her ideas for the modern woman...

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« Reply #40 on: August 29, 2006, 04:00:43 PM »
Do keep in mind please that Eulalia's books were ghost written and the real authors took extreme liberties with her stories.

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« Reply #41 on: August 29, 2006, 07:29:31 PM »
True...Although they could not be published without her permission. Yet on that book, which is quite shocking for a woman (a royal princess to boot !) to write , was actually quite forward for her time. I tend to believe it express her own opinion and ambition to shock !

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« Reply #42 on: August 30, 2006, 03:27:42 AM »
The memorys of the Infanta Eulalia, it´s said that  were writed by her friend and confident Alberto Lamar Schweyer.

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« Reply #43 on: August 30, 2006, 05:31:10 AM »
I'm writing a biography on this peculiar Infanta of Spain; her memoires were written in the early 30's and published in 1935, which is why she doens't mention anything that happened after that (Franco, the Civil War, the death of her second grandson, etc), which is a shame because the last 20 years of her life were also quite interesting.
She did not "write" per se the memoires, but she dictated them. Alberto Lamar retouched them some time after, which is why the style changes so often (sometimes it's silly, pompous, others it's blunt and thoughtful -the latter is Eulalia's work, the former Lamar's-). This is why, also, "she" often remembers her sister Pilar at some party or other when she'd been dead for a year (Lamar's mistake), or that her mother attended this or that wedding (when she really didn't, as corroborated by the letters of Eulalia's sister, Princess Paz of Bavaria). In my opinion, the impressions and details on personalities she met are very useful and true, but other matters are not to be trusted.

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« Reply #44 on: August 30, 2006, 05:43:32 AM »
When Eulalia married her coursin Antonio shortly after her brother's death he wasn't Duke of Galliera; the title of Duke of Galliera was not a royal title. The Duchess of Galliera, born Mademoiselle Brignole, was a generous woman who lived in her Italian palace. Her only son and heir refused the title because the late Duke of Galliera was not his real father. The Duchess turned to Antoine of Montpensier, Eulalia's aunt and father-in-law, and gave him the title. When he died in 1890 his only son inherited it, and Eulalia became Duchess of Galliera, a title used in many books to refer to her.
On the infanta's trip to America in 1893, in Cuba she decided to wear a dress which, it turned out, wore the exact coloursof the revolutionaries. After meeting the first crowd, she was hastened to change her problematic dress. In Chicago many were disappointed that a Spanish princess should turn out to be blue-eyed and blonde. She went also to New York and Washington DC, where she met the president and his wife, whom she liked very much.
Despite the Infanta's liberal views on politics and ways of life, she deeply loved her sister in law, the regent, and respected her nephew the king, although with not such blindness as her eldest sister Isabel, with whom she always took on a bizarre, tense relationship. Even so, she regretted the latter's death in 1931; she was very close to her mother and her sister Paz, whom she visited often after her separation and "divorce".
Eulalia was VERY close to the last Kaiser and liked the last Tsar and his wife, though she disapproved of their splendour and how they treated the lower classes. Among others, throughout her life she met Leopold II of the Belgians, Carlos and Manuel II of Portugal, Wilhelm II of Germany, Nicholas II of Russia, Ferdinand of Bulgaria, Maria Feodorovna of Russia and Empress Eugenie of France.