Braganza royal family & Brazilian royalty

[paola]

Thank you so much PrinceEddy! I will try to post some of their photos here soon. Francisca's photos are rare because she was born into a generation that was only photographed in later life. There is a book about her travels, do you know it?

and i LOVE your photos dona antonia.

have you got any rare ones of Pedro V or Franzisca de Joinville (Pedro II's sister).

DonaAntonia, which is the book about Francisca's trips? I know of a book about her trip from Brasil to Europe to marry the Prince of Joinville. Is this one?

[DonaAntonia]

Hi, PrinceEddy,

These are all I have got at least with a quick search. The 2 famous Winterhalter portraits plus 2 CDV's.
Hope you like these last 2.
Francisca was known here in Portugal as the «linda (pretty) Francisca».
One of the times her boat was arriving in Lisbon, she heard the sound of the cannons and asked what had happened. It took sometime before anyone dared to tell her that her siter the Queen had just died. She had come to assist her in childbirth.
This princess is also a very interesting topic.

and i LOVE your photos dona antonia.

have you got any rare ones of Pedro V or Franzisca de Joinville (Pedro II's sister).

[DonaAntonia]

King Pedro IV the Liberator, our first Portuguese king who reigned in Democracy with a Parliament and a Constitution. He was Princess Francisca's father.

[DonaAntonia]

Hi Paola,
Yes, it is the book about her trip. It is called «Diario da Vigem de D. Francisca de Bragança» and was written by Victorine Emilie (n. 1812), future Baroness of Langsdorff, between 1842 and 1843.

Thank you so much PrinceEddy! I will try to post some of their photos here soon. Francisca's photos are rare because she was born into a generation that was only photographed in later life. There is a book about her travels, do you know it?

and i LOVE your photos dona antonia.

have you got any rare ones of Pedro V or Franzisca de Joinville (Pedro II's sister).

DonaAntonia, which is the book about Francisca's trips? I know of a book about her trip from Brasil to Europe to marry the Prince of Joinville. Is this one?

[DonaAntonia]

Here is the book's cover:

[DonaAntonia]

Here is another.

[barbershopsinger]

Hello to you all. I am new to this forum but very interested in finding out more about the Braganzas in America. Does anyone have any photos of John Braganza (1912-1991) or of his son Michael(born 1951)? I am also trying to find out if John spent time in London as a young man. I know King Manuel lived at Fulwell park in Twickenham, London and Iwondered if anyone knows if John spent time here. I am interested in all your different views on the Portuguese Royal line of succession. maybe someone knows where I could source some photos of the American line.
Thanks
Jennifer

[Jose II]

Please do not sulk, Dona Antonia! This «Jose» has been spreading his Duarte Nuno

Really

propaganda for quite some time now. He has been from topic to topic and from post to post shooting at anything that sounds like Democracy for quite some time now.

Complete nonsense

And you only have to look at the original photos he posts

Sorry, I never posted any photo on this forum; I have no scanner

to find out that he is someone close to Duarte Pio himself. 

But yes, I was last year at the event remembering the coward assassination of King D.Carlos, where TRH the Duke and Duchess of Bragança were Present, together with the Prince of Beira and the Dukes of Viseu and Coimbra.
Unfortunately I never met personally HRH, nor have I ever spoken with him.

I have been following this forum for quite a while and it is the first time anyone states all the facts about the false pretendant, the pretender, saying and teaching what must be known by everyone. 

As we say "Vais por bom caminho" (You are following the rightful path (irony) in defending the Loulés, the Câmara Pereiras or the infamous Poidimani.
Diz-me com quem andas...

José: you should be ashamed to insult your fellow posters here in the forum. You should be ashamed to insult your own country,

Rubbish !!!

 calling a head of State a bag of air

Which he really is ! I respect the person, not the post when that person shows himself unworthy or undignified !!!

and a major poet an instable woman in an International Forum!

On an international forum ? Does it mean one should not "wash the dirty laundry outdoors" ?

Who are you, José, to insult your country and say we have statues of a king like Hitler?

Read my post. Since you say you are portuguese, if you need, I will translate it for you

King Pedro IV was a liberator and you compare him to Hitler.

No, I did not ! I said History is made by the winners.
And as to a Liberator ...
The Brazilians he galantly liberated, got rid of him at the first occasion.

And you say his statues are on our squares because Hitler's would also be everywhere had he gained the war?
For your information, King Pedro IV's statues have been on our major squares for 150 years,

Specially the one on Rossio, sorry Praça D.Pedro IV, who happens to be the one of Emperor Maximilian of Mexico and was bought in a sale after the Emperor's death and put in such a high column so that nobody could see the lack of resemblance :-)

[Amelio]

Please do not sulk, Dona Antonia! This «Jose» has been spreading his Duarte Nuno

Really

propaganda for quite some time now. He has been from topic to topic and from post to post shooting at anything that sounds like Democracy for quite some time now.

Complete nonsense

Oh, José,
I am tired of discussing the sex of the angels. Your beloved Duarte Pio is not an heir to anything and you never even once mention a valid reason why he should be considered such. So I redirect my fellow posters to this thread:

http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=12801.0

or to this link:

http://ponteeuropa.blogspot.com/2009/03/o-sr-duarte-pio-e-o-opusculo.html

It's all there, black in white.

[grandduchessella]

In the aircrash (or disappearance, really) of that French plane from Brazil was "Pedro Luiz de Orléans e Bragança, a 25-year-old relative of Dom Pedro II, the Portuguese royal and emperor of Brazil deposed in 1889, was on board, a family spokesman said, as was a senior official in the Rio's city government." Marlene wrote on her blog that "the prince, who worked for a bank in Luxembourg, was returning there after spending some time with his family in Sao Paulo. "He came to visit his family, and now he is missing," said Pedro's uncle, Dom Francisco de Orleans-Braganca."

Prince Pedro Luís of Orléans-Braganza (Pedro Luís Maria José Miguel Rafael Gabriel Gonzaga de Orléans-Bragança e Ligne,b. Jan 12, 1983 ) is the eldest son of Prince António of Orléans-Bragança e Wittelsbach and Christine, Princesse de Ligne. He is fourth in the line of the Brazilian throne after his uncles Luís and Bertrand and his father. Prince Pedro's grandmother was Princess Alix of Luxemburg and Princess Christine is a descendant in the fifth generation of King John VI of Portugal, and a great-granddaughter of Miguel I of Portugal, and a great-great-niece of Brazil's first emperor, Pedro I.

Isabel, Princess Imperial of Brazil  m Gaston, comte d'Eu
Luíz m Maria Pia Pss of Bourbon-Two Sicilies (daughter of Prince Alfonso of Bourbon-Two Sicilies, Count of Caserta and his wife Princess Antonietta of Bourbon-Two Sicilies)
PEDRO HENRIQUE  m. Maria Pss of Bavaria (daughter of Franz of Bavaria & Isabella of Croy)
Antônio m Christine Pss de Ligne (granddaughter of GDss Charlotte)
Pedro Luíz

[Vasaborg]

Prince Pedro Luis of Orleans-Braganza was killed in the Air France plane crash.

[Lucien]

Dom Duarte,the Heir of Portugal,has ordered a Mass to be held in Lisbon today in honour of the deceased Prince.Dom D and D Isabel are grief stricken by this sudden loss.Prince Pedro Luiz was only recently with them in Portugal,and was expected to visit again next month.

[Lucien]

http://www.monarquia.org.br/dompedroluiz.html

R.I.P.

[Lucien]

From the belgian Royal website:

TR&IH Prince Amedeo and Princess Maria Laura,on behalve of the Belgian Royal Family,attended a Holy Mass in
remembrance of Prince Dom Pedro Luiz de Orléans and Braganca at the church of St.Peter,Beloeil.Many members
of the de Ligne Family were also in attendance to mourn their beloved nephew/cousin.

TAR&I Le Prince Amedeo et la Princesse Maria Laura on réprésenté la Famille Royale,en fin de matinée à l'église Saint-Pierre a Beloeil,
lors du un messe célébré à la suit de disparation de Prince Pedro Luiz de Orléans et Bragance,survenue dans lacatastrophe aérrienne
du vol AF447 entre Rio de Janeiro et Paris de 1er juin dernier.

[Eurohistory]

It is a great loss, indeed, for the Imperial Family.  Now his brother Rafael, as well as their sisters, move up one place on the line of succession.  I have noticed that several news agencies and royal watchers forget that women also hold inheritance rights in Brazil.

The late dom Pedro Luiz d'Orléans-Bragança has been addressed as Perdro Luiz of Brazil, which he as not.  The descendants of the Princess Imperial of Brazil are Prince(ss) d'Orléans-Bragança with the predicate of "royal highness."  The titular head of the family and his/her heir are Princes of Brazil.

Arturo Beéche