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« Reply #30 on: July 05, 2005, 09:29:38 PM »
Thanks, that's just the kind of info I was looking for, hopefully someone can answer my other questions.

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« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2005, 05:08:43 PM »
Hey everyone, its' been a while since I've been here or online. When I got my new computer hooked to the internet it told me that my address was blocked from posting on the IMDB boards, although I've done nothing wrong, i even created a new email address to see if that was the case, but no. hopefully i can post on this board and its them not me. If it's not me can someone reccomend what I can do?
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« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2005, 01:15:26 AM »
What are you going to do with your story, post, publish or turn in as a school assignment?

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« Reply #33 on: September 25, 2005, 05:41:15 PM »
Well, dear TampaBay, I'm a lowly college freshman who's been writing since before she can remember. I've looked into publishing and it costs a lot of money. hopefully in a few years, after I graduate I can publish but for right now it's locked away in binder, it's also not quite finished.
As for turning it in as an assignment if I was ever assigned to write something like this I would never leave the school, I would probably get down on my knees and praise the teacher. alas, there aren't many courses on creative writing with an emphasis on Russian culture.

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« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2005, 06:41:48 PM »
Is it very common for Russians to remarry. I've widowed a character and I'd like to introduce one more character as her husband, she's only in her 30's.  

What is the affectionate of : Theodore/Fyodor?

male patronymics for: Grigory, Dmitri, Vladimir, Andrei, Mikhail, Vassily.

female patronymics for: Vladimir, Mikhail, Andrie

I'm thinking of renaming a character; remember Ginechka, and that no one really seems to know the name, i've been looking for a different name. I've come up with Zilya(babynames.com) and Zenaida(sp?), could some one show me how both names are pronounced, just so i know.

Also, if you notice an questions above  unanswered, please feel free to answer them.
                                                             
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« Reply #35 on: October 08, 2005, 11:04:07 PM »
Where is everybody? Come on! the last post before me was 2 days ago.

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« Reply #36 on: October 14, 2005, 07:56:55 PM »
Dracona, can you read Russian?

If you can, I have a website that will give you answers for your questions about Russian names.


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« Reply #37 on: October 14, 2005, 10:23:54 PM »
I have a copy of the Russian alphabet with me and phrase book with cyrillic , it might take a while to translate but it's worth it. Bring it on Chebursaka.

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« Reply #38 on: October 15, 2005, 02:39:42 AM »
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Is it very common for Russians to remarry. I've widowed a character and I'd like to introduce one more character as her husband, she's only in her 30's.  

What is the affectionate of : Theodore/Fyodor?

male patronymics for: Grigory, Dmitri, Vladimir, Andrei, Mikhail, Vassily.

female patronymics for: Vladimir, Mikhail, Andrie

I'm thinking of renaming a character; remember Ginechka, and that no one really seems to know the name, i've been looking for a different name. I've come up with Zilya(babynames.com) and Zenaida(sp?), could some one show me how both names are pronounced, just so i know.

Also, if you notice an questions above  unanswered, please feel free to answer them.
                                                              




1. Fyoda

2. Giorgievich, Dmitrievich, Vladimirovich, Mikhailovich, Andreevich, Vasilevich.

3. Vladimirovna, Mikhailovna, Andreevna.

Ginechka is a name for a very young child with whom the speaker is very familiar. It is not likely to be used outside of the family except by a great-uncle or and close older family friend. I think any child over the age of 10 would dislike this name intensely but put up with its use for a few more years as it is a diminutive affectionate name.

As for your names, Giorgii is not a common Russian name. It is associated more with the Christian peoples of the Kavkas Region. How can you even write a Russian story without a Aleksander (or variant: Aleks, Aleksei, Lorsha, Lorsh etc,), a Sergei (or variant: Serg Seriog, Serioga). I think that half the Russian men I know have one of these names.

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David

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« Reply #39 on: October 15, 2005, 03:47:51 AM »
David, you wouldn't mind a few remarks would you?

Fedya, not Fyoda.

Georgy is quite a common Russian name. While also popular with Georgians, it's by no means perceived by Russians as Caucasian or other non-Russian. I can fill this page with the names of contemporary Russian celebrities named Georgy.

What's Lorsha / Lorsh?... There's Lyosha, but it's diminutive for Alexey.

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« Reply #40 on: October 15, 2005, 04:47:13 AM »
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David, you wouldn't mind a few remarks would you?

Fedya, not Fyoda.

Georgy is quite a common Russian name. While also popular with Georgians, it's by no means perceived by Russians as Caucasian or other non-Russian. I can fill this page with the names of contemporary Russian celebrities named Georgy.

What's Lorsha / Lorsh?... There's Lyosha, but it's diminutive for Alexey.


Mike,

You are correct about Fedya. I had a friend whose son had this nickname but I did not remember it correctly.

I have yet to meet a single Russian name Giorgii. Where did you live in Russia? Maybe the name is more common in certain regions?

The Russians I knew who used the name Lorsha or Lyosha were Russian hoodlums who worked for the Khasbulatov Chechens prior to 1993. They were not highly educated and spoke almost totally in slang. This is probably why the name sounded like Lorsha to my ear.

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« Reply #41 on: October 15, 2005, 05:22:29 AM »
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I have yet to meet a single Russian name Giorgii.

Marshal Georgy Zhukov, popular actors Georgy Zhzhenov, Georgy Vitsin and Georgy Kutsenko, Stalin's right hand Georgy Malenkov, composer Georgy Sviridov, football coach Georgy Yartsev, psychologist Georgy Schedrovitsky, cosmonauts Georgy Beregovoy,  Georgy Grechko and Georgy Shonin, Ryazan governor Georgy Shpak... to be continued on demand :-)

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« Reply #42 on: October 15, 2005, 12:25:30 PM »
Thank you for the list of Giorgiis. In looking over the list, I was wondering if the use of the name Giorgii in Russia had a cyclical high? As you are well aware, most first names have periods of favour and disfavour. When was Giorgii most recently popular?

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David

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« Reply #43 on: October 15, 2005, 12:27:31 PM »
Well thank you guys very much. And yes there are at least two Aleksanders, there used to be three but it got kind of confusing so I beleive he either became Grigory or Stepan, a few characters have gone through name changes. Thank you, thank you.

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« Reply #44 on: October 15, 2005, 03:30:18 PM »
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When was Giorgii most recently popular?

It is pretty popular today, at least in some regions. E.g. in a large Siberian city of Barnaul, Georgy is the most popular name for boys in 2005.

In Odessa, a large Russian-speaking city in Ukraine, Georgy is gaining popularity, while previously it was a relatively rare name.

In any case, nowhere across the former USSR Georgy is perceived as unusual, foreign or outdated name.
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