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Re: Mecklenburg-Schwerin
« Reply #105 on: March 17, 2009, 04:55:06 AM »
It is said that her full name was Sophie Auguste Maria Viktoria and that her father was Heinrich Ornig and her mother Countess Feodora Alexandrovna Tolstoi...

Here is a link:http://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sofija_von_Mecklenburg-Schwerin

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Re: Mecklenburg-Schwerin
« Reply #106 on: March 17, 2009, 09:12:41 AM »
Here's what theppeerage.com says:

"     Paul Friedrich Herzog von Mecklenburg-Schwerin was born on 12 May 1882 at Schwerin, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Germany.1 He was the son of Paul Friedrich Herzog von Mecklenburg-Schwerin and Marie Prinzessin zu Windisch-Grätz. He married Sophie Viktoria Ornig, daughter of Heinrich Ornig and Countess Fjodora Aleksandrovna Tolstoy, in 1900. He died on 21 May 1904 at age 22 at Kiel, Schleswig-Holstein, Germany.

Paul Friedrich Herzog von Mecklenburg-Schwerin gained the title of Herzog von Mecklenburg-Schwerin.

Children of Paul Friedrich Herzog von Mecklenburg-Schwerin and Sophie Viktoria Ornig
Elizabeth Herzogin von Mecklenburg-Schwerin b. 19002
Gisela Herzogin von Mecklenburg-Schwerin+ b. 19012 "

However, it seems they took their info from "Alex Leiß Auersperg, "re: von Mecklenburg-Schwerin Family," e-mail message from unknown author e-mail (unknown address) to Darryl Roger Lundy, 5 October 2008. Hereinafter cited as "re: von Mecklenburg-Schwerin Family". "

No info is listed on the online gotha and that era of dress doesn't strike me as a 1900 wedding dress.
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Re: Mecklenburg-Schwerin
« Reply #107 on: March 17, 2009, 09:50:49 AM »
Unfortunately,  Daryl Lundy falls for whatever information is given to him.  He had listed a mother of Valerie Marie zu Schleswig-Holstein - which was absed on someone sending him information ..  but the woman, whose first name was Berta, never existed.  This could be the same thing.

Here's what theppeerage.com says:

"     Paul Friedrich Herzog von Mecklenburg-Schwerin was born on 12 May 1882 at Schwerin, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Germany.1 He was the son of Paul Friedrich Herzog von Mecklenburg-Schwerin and Marie Prinzessin zu Windisch-Grätz. He married Sophie Viktoria Ornig, daughter of Heinrich Ornig and Countess Fjodora Aleksandrovna Tolstoy, in 1900. He died on 21 May 1904 at age 22 at Kiel, Schleswig-Holstein, Germany.

Paul Friedrich Herzog von Mecklenburg-Schwerin gained the title of Herzog von Mecklenburg-Schwerin.

Children of Paul Friedrich Herzog von Mecklenburg-Schwerin and Sophie Viktoria Ornig
Elizabeth Herzogin von Mecklenburg-Schwerin b. 19002
Gisela Herzogin von Mecklenburg-Schwerin+ b. 19012 "

However, it seems they took their info from "Alex Leiß Auersperg, "re: von Mecklenburg-Schwerin Family," e-mail message from unknown author e-mail (unknown address) to Darryl Roger Lundy, 5 October 2008. Hereinafter cited as "re: von Mecklenburg-Schwerin Family". "

No info is listed on the online gotha and that era of dress doesn't strike me as a 1900 wedding dress.
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Re: Mecklenburg-Schwerin
« Reply #108 on: March 17, 2009, 01:47:53 PM »
The dress could not be before 1900.

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Re: Mecklenburg-Schwerin
« Reply #109 on: March 17, 2009, 04:00:52 PM »
But who is she?Why she is not listed in any genealogy site?

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Re: Mecklenburg-Schwerin
« Reply #110 on: March 17, 2009, 04:22:40 PM »


But is it Paul?

But who is she?Why she is not listed in any genealogy site?
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Re: Mecklenburg-Schwerin
« Reply #111 on: March 17, 2009, 04:55:08 PM »
You mean the person in the photo is not Paul ?

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Re: Mecklenburg-Schwerin
« Reply #112 on: March 18, 2009, 05:08:48 AM »
Four of the Mecklenburg Schwerin siblings together.



Would they be, from l. to r. : Adolf-Friederich, Heinrich, pr. of NL, Elizabeth pss of Oldenburg and Friederich-Wilhelm ?

From left to right: Heinrich, Friedrich Wilhelm, Elisabeth and Adof Friedrich. The last one was the most handsome of his brothers I'd say.

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Re: Mecklenburg-Schwerin
« Reply #113 on: March 18, 2009, 05:11:23 AM »
Here is thir picture..who is she?



Sounds like complete nonsense actually. Never read about Paul Friedrcih's (1882-1904) descendants. The man in the picture is not him definitely and the bride's dress (who looks pregnant by the way) is not of the 1900.

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Re: Mecklenburg-Schwerin
« Reply #114 on: March 18, 2009, 08:12:53 AM »
Any other picture of Paul Friedrich to compare?

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Re: Mecklenburg-Schwerin
« Reply #115 on: March 25, 2009, 02:18:13 PM »
Any other picture of Paul Friedrich to compare?

Paul Friedrich in 1895. I'll try to dig out more.


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Re: Mecklenburg-Schwerin
« Reply #116 on: March 25, 2009, 06:39:29 PM »
Thanks Sveta...so does the man in the picture above looks like the boy from this picture?I really can't tell...

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Re: Mecklenburg-Schwerin
« Reply #117 on: March 25, 2009, 08:11:22 PM »
I though the boy in the photo is from Mecklenburg Strelitz...

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Re: Mecklenburg-Schwerin
« Reply #118 on: March 26, 2009, 01:59:41 AM »
Thanks Sveta...so does the man in the picture above looks like the boy from this picture?I really can't tell...

The features are different in fact. That man is thin-faced, the look is different and so on. If one can say that the boy could change during his moving into adulthood when in that case he definitely would have done plastics  : )... No, that bridegroom is not Paul Friedrich.

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Re: Mecklenburg-Schwerin
« Reply #119 on: March 26, 2009, 02:01:36 AM »
I though the boy in the photo is from Mecklenburg Strelitz...

You will be surprised but the boy is a Mecklenbourg-Schwerin, the others in the photo (cut off) his siblings Heinrich Borwin amd Maria Antonia.