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Was Aleksey Ever Tzar?
« on: April 04, 2005, 08:12:22 PM »
I read in a book that Nikolai abdicated in favor of Aleksey, and Aleksey was tzar for a few hours until Nikolai learned Aleksey would be raised by someone else, and abdicated for him. Is this true, or did I missread it?

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Re: Was Aleksey Ever Tzar?
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2005, 08:28:09 PM »
ya its true, Alexei was Tsar for a couple of hours or so, and at the time he was having a french lesson...lol... ;D

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Re: Was Aleksey Ever Tzar?
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2005, 02:10:29 PM »
Really? Wow.. Hmm, interesting. I never heard that before. I thought he abdicated for Alexis at the same time he abdicated himself.   ???

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Re: Was Aleksey Ever Tzar?
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2005, 03:58:04 PM »
Yeah, he was Tsar for two hours, and yes, in a french lesson.

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Re: Was Aleksey Ever Tzar?
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2005, 04:27:44 PM »
Well, technically speaking, Nicholas could not legally abdicate for Alexei (so far as I know), so legally, at the time of his death, Alexei would have been the Tsar-pretender. If i am wrong about this, please correct me. Like I say, I am pretty sure the Nicholas could only legally abdicate for himself, and if this is the case, then no matter that he then said GD Michael should be Tsar, Alexei was in fact the Emperor of Russia.

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Re: Was Aleksey Ever Tzar?
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2005, 04:40:57 PM »
Huh.. that's really interesting! Thanks for letting me know!  ;)

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Re: Was Aleksey Ever Tzar?
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2005, 05:18:44 PM »
I read that Nicholas abdicated in favor of Alexei first ???
but you are probably right. Letting a weak, and very young boy rule would probably not be a good idea. Thanks for telling me. Now when anyone asks me, I wont misinform than  :)

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Re: Was Aleksey Ever Tzar?
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2005, 05:36:30 PM »
Whether or not it would be a good idea to let a weak boy be Tsar is a moot point. The fact is that Nicholas could only abdicate for himself, and had no right to abdicate for anyone else. Legally, Alexei must have been Tsar, but I think by that stage no one really cared.

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Re: Was Aleksey Ever Tzar?
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2005, 05:38:25 PM »
Alexei could not rule (for real anyway) until he was 16. Before then he would have a Regent. I've heard and read that Nicholas abdicated for Alexei, but I don't know if that was truly legal. A person had to give their consent to abdicate, so technically Alexei would have to do the same. I guess in circumstances such as the ones Nicholas faced, it would be overlooked.

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Re: Was Aleksey Ever Tzar?
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2005, 06:34:00 PM »
Hmmm, good point. So pretty much, if anyone asks (I am giving a presentation to a bunch of seventh graders.)  "Alexei was considered tsar for a while, but it was not exactly legal, and nobody really cared especially because it was for two hours?"

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Re: Was Aleksey Ever Tzar?
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2005, 07:16:45 PM »
No, it was legal! Nicholas' abdicating for Alexei would not be legal.

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Re: Was Aleksey Ever Tzar?
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2005, 07:43:04 PM »
Oh, I understand now. I'm sorry.  When it gets so technical and precise, it gets hard for me to follow.

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Re: Was Aleksey Ever Tzar?
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2005, 05:48:24 PM »
I think this also goes along with the ideology that the if the Tsar can make the laws, he can break the laws. Tsar Paul I made a law stating only males could rule in Russia, but if Alexandra had continued having girls, Nicholas could easily have changed this to allow girls to rule and have Olga succeed him. So I think Nicholas had full power to abdicate for himself and for Alexei, but I guess it was not legally permitted, but it didn't matter anyway.

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Re: Was Aleksey Ever Tzar?
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2005, 06:01:54 PM »
Oh, I get it. Thanks, that helps clear it up for me.  ;D
Dana  ;)

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Re: Was Aleksey Ever Tzar?
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2005, 09:01:11 PM »
So, Alexei could have been the last Tsar? (I mean, if we don't count Misha)

who was the last tsar???
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