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Re: Title and surname of the Greek Kings
« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2005, 08:16:23 AM »
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I believe he had to renounce the titles to become a British citizen.  I am not sure what hoops he had to jump through, but he benefited by it in the long run.


Quite so.

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Re: Title and surname of the Greek Kings
« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2005, 04:56:05 PM »
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I think that Philip gave up his titles to become a British citizen.  I also remember reading something to the effect of that at the time of Philip's marriage to QEII, he was very close in line to the throne of Greece, and they didn't want the complications that this might possibly entail one day.  I think Philip also "felt" British, having been raised and educated there by his British relatives, and identified more with the Mountbattens than with the Greek Royals,  whom he had very little association with.


At the time of Phillip and Elizabeth's wedding in 1947, the Greek Crown had not been secure for decades. The Greek monarch was either in exile or deposed between 1917-1920, 1923-1935, and 1941-1946.  Phillip's father had been convicted of treason in 1922 and sentenced to death - he escaped only by going into exile.  Phillip himself was raised in exile, first in Paris, then Germany, and finally to England.  

There were many reasons why Phillip had to become a British citizen before becomming the consort of the future Queen.  He had many "trouble spots" in his background that might have raised serious objection otherwise, not least of which that he had studied in Germany before the war and his sisters were all married to German princes.

Phillip had to renounce his allegiance to the Hellenic (Greek) Crown, as well as his Greek and Danish royal titles.  He did both in March of 1947, just 8 months before his wedding to Princess Elizabeth.  He also had to convert from the Greek Orthodox Church to the Anglican Church, since his wife and eldest son would eventually be its titlar head.

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Re: Title and surname of the Greek Kings
« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2005, 05:29:50 PM »
wtf?

good one?  

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Re: Title and surname of the Greek Kings
« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2005, 07:49:05 AM »
Please excuse my total ignorance but, please, what is FYROM ? :-/
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Re: Title and surname of the Greek Kings
« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2005, 12:56:27 PM »
FYROM stands for (I think) Former Yugoslav Republic Of Macedonia.  Reaper, who was so vehement about this subject, seems to have dropped out (after criticizing my English and royally offending me), and your question doesn't appear on the regular posting, but I found it in a roundabout way.  Maki

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Re: Title and surname of the Greek Kings
« Reply #35 on: July 02, 2005, 04:29:27 PM »
thanks Maki ;)
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Re: Title and surname of the Greek Kings
« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2005, 10:18:22 AM »
Actually, the only Greek Royal to have Greek blood was the unfortunate Alexandra of Greece, daughter of the even more unfortunate King Alexander and his morganatic wife Aspasia Manos. However, Alexandra was not eligible to succeed, but she did marry royalty in the end... had she been a boy the story may have been wholl< different :)

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Re: Title and surname of the Greek Kings
« Reply #37 on: July 26, 2005, 05:01:01 PM »
the princess Marina Alexandra and Olga also have greek blood

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Re: Title and surname of the Greek Kings
« Reply #38 on: July 30, 2005, 07:42:14 AM »
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the princess Marina Alexandra and Olga also have greek blood


Which Marina and which Olga?  Where did the Greek blood come from?

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Re: Title and surname of the Greek Kings
« Reply #39 on: July 30, 2005, 08:36:19 AM »
Princess Marina (Karella) Prince Michleal's wife is greek there two daughters Aleksandra and Olga have greek blood.

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Re: Title and surname of the Greek Kings
« Reply #40 on: July 30, 2005, 03:26:01 PM »
Thnak you.  I always forget about the "Michael" Princesses.

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Re: Title and surname of the Greek Kings
« Reply #41 on: March 08, 2006, 10:07:08 AM »
The title as prince of Greece and Denmark goes back to 1863, when Prince Vilhelm (Georg I), second eldest son of King Christian IX, was about to be the new King of Greece. His father was well aware that the Greek throne was unstabil, and under normal circumstances, Vilhelm would have to renounce his title as danish prince to become king of Greece. But King Christian made it so, that in case Vilhelm would be disposed, he and his descendants would still be danish princes and princesses, just not in the line to the throne. A way to secure that they had a country where they would be welcome, if they one day should find them selves "countryless".
Prince Phillip renounced his title as prince of Greece and Denmark, when he married QEII, a condition when he gained british citizenship. So Phillip and QEII's children are not princes and princess of Greece and Denmark.
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Re: Title and surname of the Greek Kings
« Reply #42 on: March 08, 2006, 02:03:43 PM »
He is not only direct descedant of James I and George III but he has also descended from Queen Victoria...which makes him closely related to his wife!

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Re: Title and surname of the Greek Kings
« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2006, 02:08:50 PM »
There's a thread about it I think - 'shared ancestry of queen Elizabeth and prince Philip'.
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Re: Title and surname of the Greek Kings
« Reply #44 on: March 08, 2006, 04:07:22 PM »
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There's a thread about it I think - 'shared ancestry of queen Elizabeth and prince Philip'.


I consider his pedigree to be pretty much on parr with his wife.  It gets my hackles up when people call him a minor prince.  I know what they mean by the term minor, but you know what I mean.  ;)  :)
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