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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #75 on: November 27, 2007, 10:32:14 AM »
Does anyone have that von Angeli portrait of her?Or any other?

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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #76 on: November 27, 2007, 10:46:33 AM »
only this version of the cover...maybe someone else has a better image and wants to share  :)


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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #77 on: November 27, 2007, 11:55:07 AM »
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this may have already been discussed before, but here's my question anyway:  

what was Ducky's title after she divorced Ernie, but before she married Kyril?  (i mean, was she still known as grand duchess?

and was it the same after marrying Kyril, but before he recieved the telegram, "ta femme est grande duchesse"?

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According to wikipedia (take of it what you will) it says that her title post-divorce, pre-remarriage was Her Royal Highness Princess Victoria of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. This is also how she was described in the newspapers at the time of her re-marriage in 1905.


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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #78 on: November 27, 2007, 07:38:57 PM »
It makes sense that her title would revert to Princess of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha after the divorce. She certainly wouldn't have been Ex-Grand Duchess of Hesse-Darmstadt!
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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #79 on: November 27, 2007, 07:58:51 PM »
Excactly ! She was born Princess of Great Britian & Ireland and created princess of Edinburgh and Saxe-Coburg (through the titles of her father).

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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #80 on: November 29, 2007, 12:18:09 AM »
It makes sense that her title would revert to Princess of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha after the divorce. She certainly wouldn't have been Ex-Grand Duchess of Hesse-Darmstadt!

According to wikipedia (take of it what you will) it says that her title post-divorce, pre-remarriage was Her Royal Highness Princess Victoria of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. This is also how she was described in the newspapers at the time of her re-marriage in 1905.

that's rather what i thought.  

i'm, presently, re-reading (see quoted image below) and noticed it never mentions her interim designation....or if it does, i've managed to miss it each time i've read the book. (which, actually, would not be the first time that's happened :-P



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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #82 on: December 17, 2007, 06:35:55 AM »
According to Marie's memoires, she and V. Melita were especially apt horsewomen.
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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #83 on: December 17, 2007, 10:04:43 AM »
Hi,

In "Hessian Tapestry", David Duff writes that Victoria Melita often rode out accompanying Empress Victoria Augusta (Dona) in Potsdam.  This was during her marriage to Ernst Ludwig.

Duff quotes someone (sorry, I don't remember whom):  "The ample backside of Dona bouncing up & down was often followed by the thin & lithe figure of Ducky on their morning trots!"......
I thought that was funny!!

Larry

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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #84 on: December 17, 2007, 07:51:32 PM »
I heard that Ducky often rode in Darmstadt to let off steam in her marriage.... ???

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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #85 on: December 17, 2007, 09:38:04 PM »
Didn't it supposedly lead to the stillbirth of her son? Ernst Ludwig apparently pleaded with her to stop riding so hard during her pregnancy but she refused.
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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #86 on: December 18, 2007, 01:00:42 PM »
I think the general feeling was at that time that her riding so late into the pregnancy had caused her son to be born still birth. Ernst and several others tired to get her to stop but she refused to listen and did as she liked.


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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #88 on: December 18, 2007, 04:16:18 PM »
http://www.royal-magazin.de/german/hessen/hessen-victoria-melita-smaragde.htm
Does anyone have the two upper right hand pictures featured on this page? I had never seen them before.



The lower one is a cropped image from a sitting with Ducky, Missy & Beatrice.



The upper one I have in a postcard but don't have it scanned.
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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #89 on: December 18, 2007, 04:17:40 PM »
A close-up of Ducky from a photo taken while visiting Queen Victoria

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