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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #300 on: December 02, 2011, 11:34:51 AM »
They wrote to each other (Ella) frequently as Ducky implied in her letters to Missy.

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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #301 on: December 02, 2011, 03:09:27 PM »

How did VM behave at Elisabeth's funeral?

I meant to drop 2 sentences about this but now I see it's better to post the letters of GD Sergei to Nicholas II and Elizaveta Fedorovna to GDss Xenia A.
I'll translate and post them.

Here are my translations of the letters (extracts)- about VM at the funeral.

Letter of GD Sergei to Emperor Nicholas - November 6th,Darmstadt

Dear Nicky

I’d like to write quick words about  everything what was going on here. At the station in Frankfurt I came along with Ducky – she was together with Marie, Missy and baby Bee; when I was taking her to her carriage she asked if Ernie wished to see her or it would be displeasing too much for him. Her mood was very touching , their meeting was simple and natural. Ducky wished to see her daughter, and the coffin was uncovered. She was left alone with Ernie and asked him in detail about the illness and last minutes of the daughter…It was so very touching when after the end of the service – Ducky kneeled and put her head on the daughter’s coffin, and when she rose we saw that she had taken off her Hessian order and set it on the coffin: a sign that her connection with the country is cut off! She did that simply and naturally…


Letter of GDss Elizaveta F. to GDss Xenia Alexandrovna, November 9th,Darmstadt

Dear Xenia

…All this is so sad, so sad – I have no words…The meeting with Ducky was going on well. She looked like a shadow – poor, unhappy woman. Everything might be awful for her , and her recollections about her daughter are related with such remorse. The child would have been with her now but for her affair with Kyrill. Will he marry her?...He discredited her entirely in  everyone’s eyes, she is torn between and, alas! – they may thank themselves that they live now in a such situation. And all this drama has a basis – alas! – it’s a selfishness…
We all felt so sorry for her, we did everything to soothe a pain at the meeting. She was due to follow the coffin with her mother and sisters - ‘No,I want to go with someone of you’  - she followed with Victoria in the 1st carriage – Victoria was very oppressed with her grief…Ernie was as kind as an angel – he gave her a hand when she was getting out of a carriage and he was keeping her close by during all the service and funeral . He wanted that everyone saw in them a poor mother and father , not a divorced couple. Ony fancy what is that for him, but God helped him.



The source of letters is "Grand Duchess Elizaveta Feodorovna and Emperor Nicholas II. 1884-1909".


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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #302 on: December 02, 2011, 04:25:52 PM »
Thank you so much for taking the time and translating it all - unknown sources to me. I am glad to read about Ernst Ludwig's behavior - I had not a moment expected a different manner!
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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #303 on: December 03, 2011, 12:29:30 PM »
Thank you so much for taking the time and translating it all - unknown sources to me. I am glad to read about Ernst Ludwig's behavior - I had not a moment expected a different manner!


You are welcome. I wished I had enough time to translate and post some more info/tidbits from the source I mentioned and also from a new Volume 4 on GD Sergei (his correspondence, diaries...)

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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #304 on: December 05, 2011, 01:00:53 PM »
Thanks for the translation. We get to know more about the people involved. If only these info could be published in English (like the letters of Marie Coburg & Tsarina Alexandra) one from the archives in Darmstadt and the other from Romania.

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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #305 on: December 22, 2011, 02:35:00 PM »
Victoria melita in uniform



 

Courtesy of Grand Duchess Ally

"...Пусть он землю бережет родную, А любовь Катюша сбережет....". Grand Duchess Ekaterina Fyodorovna to Grand Duke Georgiy Alexandrovich. 1914

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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #306 on: December 22, 2011, 02:40:01 PM »
Victoria melita in uniform


 

She was the Chief of 117th Infantry Regiment of Grand Duchess of Hesse as I know. Great photo, thanks.

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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #307 on: December 22, 2011, 02:41:26 PM »
You welcome and thanks for the complementary info!! here two more in uniform and another one with a great brooch!



 

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"...Пусть он землю бережет родную, А любовь Катюша сбережет....". Grand Duchess Ekaterina Fyodorovna to Grand Duke Georgiy Alexandrovich. 1914

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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #308 on: December 22, 2011, 02:50:30 PM »
You welcome and thanks for the complementary info!! here two more in uniform and another one with a great brooch!



 


And these uniforms are of some Grenadier Regiment...Very interesting!

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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #309 on: December 22, 2011, 04:30:53 PM »
She was apparently very proud of her regiment and frequently appeared to review them. There are a lot of photos of her--mostly posed like these--in the magazines of the Day. One article--Royal Women Colonels--had one of this sitting plus Charlotte, Louise Connaught, Empress Augusta Victoria, Marie (Missy) and others--mostly those holding Colonelships of German regiments. The women cut quite the dashing figures in their uniform.  :)
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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #310 on: December 23, 2011, 04:23:08 AM »
This is the uniform of the "Großherzoglich Hessisches Leib-Infanterie Regiment Nr. 117 Großherzogin" whose patron was always the Grand Duchess of Hesse. Photographed in 1897
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« Reply #311 on: December 23, 2011, 07:41:13 AM »
The pictures ame of the Nilssen collection of portraits from the 1898 issue. I have three of these books and i just found out recently they had royals, since i bought them because the victorian actresses.

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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #312 on: March 06, 2012, 05:40:38 AM »
Ernst Ludwig and Victoria Melita in 1895


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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #313 on: March 06, 2012, 01:17:20 PM »
Both of them looked unhappy and wistful....

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Re: Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig & Grand Duchess Victoria Melita
« Reply #314 on: March 07, 2012, 10:09:13 AM »
...or maybe it was just taking too long for the photograph to be taken!
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