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Richard_Cullen

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Dear all.

Sorry I haven't been contributing to the site much recently.  However my book on Rasputin's torture and murder and the role of the British Secret Intelligence Service in this hideous crime is due to be published at the end of the month by Bite Back publishing.  You can pre order on line with Amazon, Waterstone's etc.  For those of you who read my paper on the subject that Rob carried on line for a considerable period of time in the AP Website you will find the book contains much more information and deals with the challenged authenticity of the Alley/Scale letter.  There is more supporting forensic evidence and further analysis of the Yusupov/Purishkevich attempts to pervert the course of justice.  Lord justice Leveson (formerly the Senior Presiding Judge for England and Wales) has reviewed the book and says this:

'Having been involved with the BBC in a reinvestigation of the murder of Gregorii Rasputin, Dr Richard Cullen has continued to bring his experience as a former police officer to bear in a detailed analysis of publicly available evidence of the investigation.  This has involved a study of the likely scenes of the crime, cross reference of the witness statements, a reevaluation of what can be learnt from the pathologists and a detailed consideration of other forensic evidence.  He also examines other contemporaneous material which it does not appear was part of the original case file. 
Over the years, we have learnt much about ‘cold case’ investigations of crimes which, with the benefit of modern investigative techniques, have borne remarkable fruit.  This book is a first class illustration of the process, applied to a murder which is undeniably a part of Russian history which, because of the admissions that had been made, was thought to have been ‘solved’.  It will fascinate students of pre-Revolution Russia and anyone intrigued by the challenges thrown up by criminal investigations of the most serious kind.'

I only touch lightly on Rasputin's life and the lives of those who may or may not have been involved in the plot to murder him.  What i do concentrate is on his torture and murder dispelling many of the myths that have appeared over the years which have allegedly come from 'police sources'.

Whether you agree with the evidence or not please buy the book - ALL my royalties are being donated to the charity Help for Heroes which supports soldiers wounded in the conflict in Afghanistan and elsewhere.  the more books that sell the more money the charity gets.

I hope you enjoy the book.  Big thanks to Rob and Bob who have been  big supporters of this project and to Rudy for his in depth knowledge of Rasputin and St Petersburg.

Richard

I.S. Graznichov

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Mr. Cullen,
I have followed your investigation for years, with great interest and respect.
I am writing a modern thriller  about the Russian Federated Republic.
It features, among other things, the historically realistic depiction of Rasputin's murder.
Detailed historical research - based on the police reports and newspaper accounts from both Russia and the UK - has borne unexpected results. [And I have followed the discussions in this forum for almost five years so I was very surprised at what I found.]
It appears that the first shot was fired upstairs in  the ballroom overlooking the Courtyard, where Rasputin's blood later trailed across the snow. [As you know, every movie about this murder shows it occurring on the non-Moika and wrong side of the Palace.]
The first policeman to the scene of the first shot even reported glass on the ground.
My question is whether you or anyone else has ever done  a timeline about the rest of that the early morning of December 17, 1916? The conspirators' account has huge time gaps.
I take it you are aware of Wilton's dispatches from St. Petersburg for the Times about the murder? It seems to me that what Wilton reported is not only compatible with the police report times but exposes some of the seams sewn between the lies in Prince Yusupov's  Lost Splendor [ and his other published comments about the incident, as well as the contradictory confessions of the other conspirators]-  and the likely truth.
You mentioned in an earlier post that there were three men present at Rasputin's murder other than  Des Lasovert, Dimitri, Sohotkin and Felix. If we add Vera Karel and Marianne Defelden that makes ten. An equal number of men and women would be socially correct and total 16. As you probably know, according to Wilton, Correspondent for the Times [quoted below], they are all upstairs having a party when someone shoots out the second story window of the palace from inside. This is when the police come.
Do you have a theory how this episode fits what really happened?

"Report from Robert Wilton, written December 31, 1916
Confidential

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From the reports of the police investigators cited below and from other information obtained by reporters on the staff of the Novae Vremya, it would appear that about 2.30 at night Rasputin was told that he would have to die and he was given the option of committing suicide or being killed.
A revolver was placed in his hand, but he flatly declined to commit suicide and discharged the weapon some say in the direction of the Grand Duke Dimitri. The bullet smashed a pane of glass thereby attracting the attention of the police outside. ..."


I would appreciate your thoughts and suggestions.

Thanks
 


Richard_Cullen

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hi

I think there is a difference between the actual police statements (as contained in GARF), police reports and what purport to be police reports yet do not exist in GARF.  these documents have confused and the evidence around the glass being found I think is distinctly lacking.  cook suggests that the window (from the study) was broken when someone fired from inside the building across the yard as R was fleeing.  I can find no evidence to support this.  Similarly the evidence that there were women present is hearsay and does not withstand scrutiny.  I have challenged many of these issues in my book.  Yes there are timelines which are very important to the whole case and suggestions 'that dawn was approaching' are farcical.

It is the detail of what people say and what is contained in the 'actual' evidence not the hearsay that is important.  happy to help with anything else I can or if you want more explanation.

Richard

I.S. Graznichov

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Richard
I eagerly await publication of your book.
 You are absolutely right that the line “dawn was approaching” has to be wrong. The author has obviously never been to Scotland in the winter. At St. Petersburg’s latitude that time of year, “dawn” - if you can call it that - only comes about nine am . I spent years in Alaska where the Kenai Peninsula is on the  same latitude as Petrograd.
It seems to have been cold that night and at that latitude one can expect heavy ice fog off of the water [like the Moika and the Little Neva]. This delays any “real” sunrise for as much as two hours after the astronomical and official sunrise during the winter solstice.

I am interested in your opinion about Wilton’s [the Times’] relationship with British Intelligence. On the London end, the owners of the Times and other media barons were expected to print what the government wanted. It would seem likely that the Times would show MI-5 the courtesy of forwarding them Wilton’s accounts, as a “johnny-on-the- spot”, likely as soon as the cable arrived at the Times.

Shouldn’t Wilton’s live reports as a respected journalist should be given some weight? Were you able to find out anything to support or refute the relationship between the Times and MI-5 on your end?

Also, were you able to get access to contemporary MI-5 files from the time? According to something I once read on this website, File 705 for Russia contains the traffic  between the British Embassy in St. Petersburg and MI-5 in London. It is apparently missing over eight hundred telegrams, sent immediately after Rasputin’s murder, Nos. 7 to 811 [I didn’t see a reference to the actual the signal numbers or the log], starting just before New Years Eve 1916. [January 14 on the British calendar, December 31 is December 16 in Russia as you know.]

Specifically, the first telegram is dated December 29th from Oswald Rayner, advising, that he is close on the track of a German spy.

There is a response from the British Ambassador Sir George Buchanan [sent Dec 30th 1916 and received 31st Dec.] This  signal was numbered 265108, noted as being kept with the next signal concerning the murder.

Notably, this was sent the day before the murder - which could lead to certain conclusions.

The next telegram was again dated Dec 30th 1916 and received on Jan 1st 1917,  summarized as ‘M Rasputin’s murder - circumstances of’ [referenced to file 705] noted as coming from Petrograd. The next telegram was received Jan 2nd, again from Petrograd, summarized as ‘Conversation with GD Nicholas. Gloomy view of internal conditions.’

That this concerns the killing we can tell because it too is recorded as being filed with signal 705.

There is also a telegram dated Jan 4th from Sir George Buchanan is summarized as ‘Murder of Rasputin - Czar’s refusal to release Prince Yusupov; Former reactionary leader Purishkevich said to have planned murder.’ This too is recorded as being held with the same file 705.

The fact that the records end there where missing traffic starts could suggest that there were “discussions” after the murder. The fact of their removal could suggest that without Rasputin the British became even more worried about keeping Russia in the war. This would seem strange if the German spy had been eliminated. Perhaps, after torturing Rasputin to death, London decided the German spy was not Rasputin after all. If in fact there is anything to the talk about removing or perhaps even assassinating Czar Nicholas II - so that the protesting Grand Duke Nicholas would be forced to take the throne – the missing traffic supports the possibility that Rasputin’s murder started a chain of British secret activities that were very bad.
Did you find anything to support or refute this?
 
 Thanks,


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Richard_Cullen

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Hi

i am afraid I believe very little that is found in newspaper reports - police sources tend to be unreliable and usually comprise of hearsay evidence.  The problem is that much of the speculation at the time created by people like Stopford have become accepted as facts.  Stopford has been substantially discredited.  This acceptance of 'hearsay evidence' as fact has come about over the years by well intentioned people not investigating the murder but trying to tell a story.  Radzinsky's story makes for excellent reading but is way off the truth.  the GARF files reveal the errors.

You will see there is detailed analysis around timings - the weather, the tidal flow of the Nevka etc etc in the book.

Did the Brit's see R as a spy - almost certainly but that perception was probably generated by Rayner's close personal relationship with FY.

There is much intrigue here - the extended IF having their noses put out of joint by R.  FY's strong personal relationship with Dimitry and jealousy around R's influence.

R


matushka

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Mr Cullen, may I ask you if your book is to be translated in russian? It would be really helpful!

Richard_Cullen

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I am afraid there are no plans to translate it into Russian at this stage but my managing editor is in fact a Russian speaker.

Richard

Richard_Cullen

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Dear all,

I have just taken possession of my publisher's copy of my book.  It will be in main distributors' warehouses such as Amazon by Wednesday and in UK book shops by Friday.  Remember all my royalties are going to the charity Help for Heroes.

Richard


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Dear all,

I have just taken possession of my publisher's copy of my book.  It will be in main distributors' warehouses such as Amazon by Wednesday and in UK book shops by Friday.  Remember all my royalties are going to the charity Help for Heroes.

Richard



Mr. Cullen,

This is fantastic!  I look forward to getting a copy of it...

Richard_Cullen

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Dear all,

Thanks to those of you who have purchased copies of the book already - Amazon UK sold out on the first day and had to re-order from the publishers.  remember all my royalties go to Help for Heroes and even if I say so myself the book is a good read.

Richard

Richard_Cullen

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Please see the below which is in today's Daily Mail on-line

How Britain's first spy chief ordered Rasputin's murder (in a way that would make every man wince)


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1296645/How-Britains-spy-chief-ordered-Rasputins-murder-way-make-man-wince.html#ixzz0uPxiViDJ

Richard_Cullen

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Guys

there is a new book out about the british Secret Service in which R's murder is discussed.

How Britain's first spy chief ordered Rasputin's murder (in a way that would make every man wince)


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1296645/How-Britains-spy-chief-ordered-Rasputins-murder-way-make-man-wince.html#ixzz0uPxiViDJ

Richard

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I'm sorry to have not posted this sooner, but family stuff got in the way.  I've read Richard's book, and with the exception of one flaw, it is exceptional.  The only flaw is that the editors MISSPELLED my name in the acknowledgments and text. So, wherever you read "Rob Monash" it means me, Rob Moshein. LOL.

Aside from this editorial snafu, the arguments are cogent, well documented and well researched. It really does re-write a piece of history.  There is no longer any doubt that the traditional story of Rasputin's murder/execution is a fairy tale of deliberate falsehoods and red herrings to disguise what really happened and who was really involved.

This book is a must read for anyone interested in the story of Rasputin and his death.  Truly, the truth is finally out, after 90 years.

Bravo and Well Done You Richard!

Rob

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Rob

Thank you very much for your kind comments.  My problem with logging in was down to my computer at work but I am now home and it is fine.  Maybe it is a comment on life that I so rarely have time to log on to my PC at home.  I hope that sales continue to flourish as my royalties are going to a very good cause.   

I think more people are buying copies because the royalties are going to Help for Heroes rather than a real interets in the history.  But the aim was to make money for the charity and that is what I am doing.  I would like to thank you and all at AP for hosting the book on the web-site for 18 months before the publishers saw it and asked if I was prepared for it to go to hard copy.

I am going to be in the USA - Florida Keys from 27th September to 6th October helping to teach US and UK servicemen who have lost limbs in the Iraq and Afghan conflicts to dive.  So if any of you US based AP members are around be glad to put faces to the names.

Thanks again

Richard

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