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Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2005, 09:06:49 PM »
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I nearly forget about it!!


John Miguel is not a prince of Braganza, he just descends of royalty, as many people do. His father, prince Miguel renounced to his rights in 1920, after 11 years of marriage to the commoner Anita Stewart. Although the renounce was made because of the morganatic nature of his marriage, I don't know why it was done so late. but what is sure is that Mr. De Braganza is not a prince.



Miguel and Anita's marriage was not morganatic - she was styled HRH during the marriage.  If I recall, the reason for the late announcement was to pass the line to the other branch.  The family lived in the USA, and the children were Americans - and had careers.  It was a decision to exclude the American line.
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Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2005, 06:43:40 AM »


Oh! sorry, I didn't know about that. But then, if the marriage was not morganatic, the children born to Anita and Michael (Elisabeth Nada, John Miguel and Michael Luis) would have to have renounced, as their father did, to their rights. I mean, when their father renounced, they had already been born, so it was illegal for Prince Miguel to renounce in their name.


As far as I know, none of his children have officially renounced. And regarding Portugal's marriage laws, that marriage would have been morganatic, as Anita does not belong to a House considered equal for the Royal House of Portugal. Where can we found more information about this??

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« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2005, 01:39:36 PM »
Not only were the marriages morganatic but I believe these American Braganzas are Episcopalian, not Catholic, so would be inelgible under the old House Laws. Besides the present Duke, Dom Duarte, is highly respected both in Portgual and among other royals/nobility and has 2 young sons so the point of other possible "claimants" is mute anyway.

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Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2005, 02:12:43 PM »

There was quite a lot of news coverage about this famiily when Anita married and afterward.  From what I understand an agreement was reached to have the line pass to Duarte Pio's line (which was previously excluded) because the American branch was not interested.  They were far more American than Portuguese.

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Oh! sorry, I didn't know about that. But then, if the marriage was not morganatic, the children born to Anita and Michael (Elisabeth Nada, John Miguel and Michael Luis) would have to have renounced, as their father did, to their rights. I mean, when their father renounced, they had already been born, so it was illegal for Prince Miguel to renounce in their name.


As far as I know, none of his children have officially renounced. And regarding Portugal's marriage laws, that marriage would have been morganatic, as Anita does not belong to a House considered equal for the Royal House of Portugal. Where can we found more information about this??

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Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2005, 03:48:14 AM »


But when Duarte received the title of Head of the House from his brother, he had no line whatsoever. He was just thirteen!!! I don't think that the son of a Portuguese prince and a German princess would have been excluded of Sucession in favour of a Portuguese prince and his Northamerican - morganatic- wife!!

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Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2005, 10:38:06 AM »
The marriages of Miguel I of Portugal's chldren and grandchildren have been wonderful.  Among his most notable descendants are: Archduke Heir Otto fo Austria, Queen Anne of Romania, the Duke of Braganca, the Duke of Parma, the Grand Dukes Jean and Henri of Luxembourg and the Fürst of Thurn und Taxis, to name some.

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Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2005, 12:42:21 PM »
Children of King Michael of Portugal and Princess Adelaide of Lowenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg:

*Maria das Neves m. Infante Alfonso of Spain, Duque de San Jaime.  No children.
*Michael m. 1.) Princess Elisabeth of Thurn und Taxis. children: Michael and Maria Theresa, m. 2.) Princess Theresa of Lowenstein-Wertheim-Rosenberg. children: Isabel, Maria Anna, Duarte (father of present pretender), and Maria Adelaide.
*Maria Theresa m. Archduke Charles Louis of Austria. children: Maria Annunciata and Elisabeth.
*Maria Josepha m. Charles Theodore, Duke in Bavaria. children: Sophie, Elisabeth, Maria Gabriella, Ludwig Wilhelm.
*Maria Anna m. William, Grand Duke of Luxemburg. children: Adelaide, Charlotte, Hilda, Antoinette, Elisabeth, and Sophie.
*Maria Antonia m. Robert, Duke of Parma, as his second wife, and bore him the second dozen of his children, including the future Empress Zita of Austria.
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Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2005, 12:48:13 PM »
There is a lovely portrait of Queen Adelheid as a young woman in Eduardo Nobre's book Familia Real as well as a picture of her with her husband and 2 eldest children. I am very sorry I have the book but no scanner. Maybe someone else has and could post the pics.

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Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2005, 06:55:01 PM »
I wonder what the sisters were like? María de las Nieves seems to me to have posessed a very strong will.
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Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2005, 06:57:40 PM »
María Teresa, future Archduchess of Austria-Hungary, wife of Archduke Karl Ludwig.



She has a peaceful, somewhat childish look in her eyes... All sisters seem to me to have been very different from one another...

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Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2005, 06:58:07 PM »
María Josefa, Duchess in Bavaria:


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Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2005, 06:59:55 PM »
Adelgundes, Countess of Bardi; her husband Enrico was Roberto I of Parma's brother; while Roberto had 24 children (12 with his second wife, her sister), Adelgundes and Enrico never had any children (she is the only one of her siblings not to have had any children of her own).:



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Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2005, 07:01:30 PM »
María Anna of Luxemburg. There is a thread dedicated to her beautiful daughters in the Benelux section.

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Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2005, 07:04:41 PM »
María Antonia, duchess of Parma; she had twelve children with her sexually ardent husband, Roberto I of Parma, a VERY rich man who only lacked a land to reign over.



She had to become stepmother to her husband's nine children from his first marriage, six of whom were mentally retarded (check Italian section)

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Re: Duke Miguel of Braganza and his family
« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2005, 07:08:31 PM »
Miguel's sons-in-law:

Alfonso Carlos de Borbón, Duke of San Jaime:




Karl Ludwig, Archduke of Austria-Hungary:




Karl Theodor of Wittelsbach, Duke in Bavaria:




Enrico of Bourbon-Parma, Count of Bardi:




Willem IV of Luxemburg, Grand Duke of Luxemburg:




Roberto I of Bourbon-Parma, Duke of Parma and Piacenza:

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