Re: Anna Anderson - Physical Evidence and DNA #4

[Finelly]

However, I do believe that anyone who accuses a published author of "making it up" on a public message board will have to see it for himself, and then make a very public apology.

The disrespect shown is really something I cannot fathom.......

[rskkiya]

The disrespect shown is really something I cannot fathom.......

Hmmmm.... [insert zen-like icon here]

[JonC]

OK,...I know that, but does Gerard Noel give a reference? If he does, have you checked it? His reference would come from the following book;

'Princess Alice, Grand Duchess of Hesse. Biographical Sketches and letters. GP Putnam and Sons. 1884.

Did you check Noel's reference? Let me know what you find. Thanks JonC.

[Finelly]

So whose credibility are you questioning here?

[RealAnastasia]

I think it's Noel credibility that is questioned.

RealAnastasia.

[Finelly]

Interesting.  I thought Greg was the one called a liar.

[helenazar]

Interesting.  I thought Greg was the one called a liar.

Finelly, please stop trying to instigate a fight - you know that this is what is going to happen. Let it go. Practice what you preach.

[Finelly]

Relax.  I don't start fights.  I seek facts in order to better understand the task that is asked of me.

[lexi4]

OK,...I know that, but does Gerard Noel give a reference? If he does, have you checked it? His reference would come from the following book;

'Princess Alice, Grand Duchess of Hesse. Biographical Sketches and letters. GP Putnam and Sons. 1884.

Did you check Noel's reference? Let me know what you find. Thanks JonC.

Why don't you just go the the library and get the book?

[Mgmstl]

Why don't you just go the the library and get the book?

Can someone PLEASE explain to me why the discussion of Alice of Hesse's pregnancy is relevant to a thread discussion on the difference of the nose between FS & AN, and why the uncalled for insults to Greg King???  Come on folks hasn't there been enough crapola & personal vendetta's on this thread.  Back to topic PLEASE!!

[lexi4]

 
You are right Michael. Thank you.

[JonC]

Hi Michael_G.

I'm going to try and post this again.

There is no insult intended from my end to Greg King. I certainly have no 'vendetta'. I don't belong to the group of posters you are implying about who might have those intentions. My angle is strictly intellectual. I could not find any mention in Alices's letters published in 1884 referenced by Gerard Noel and Greg King which mention that Alice felt the baby kicking.

I have placed an order for the said books to be obtained by my library from outside its system since it doesn't own these books. If anyone has the book with Alice's letters then maybe they can look up the said reference.

This thread is about 'noses'. This other topic came about unintentionally and maybe it should have its own thread. JonC.

[Finelly]

JonC -

First you said:  "The only thing I ever said to Greg was a question asking him where he got the quote in his book ' Empress Alexandra' which mentions that Alice felt the baby kicking, during her pregnancy with Alexandra in 1872. He quoted Gerard Noel's book Noel quoted Alices's writings and low and behold I read everything and there isn't any mention of her being pregnant at all in 1871-2. Greg never responded. Personally, I think he made it up."  

Now you say:  "There is no insult intended from my end to Greg King. I certainly have no 'vendetta'"

If you intended no insult, then apologize to Mr. King immediately, because he WAS insulted, and its pretty easy to see why.  You have alleged that he invented facts, and as a published non-fiction author, he has every right to be upset.

Would you talk this way in person to someone?

[lexi4]

Way to go Finelly.

[JonC]

Finelly...

I believe its still a little premature for me to appologize.  I haven't had the chance to proof my notes on this subject. I promised I would appologize if I were wrong and I will.

Finelly I understand Greg was insulted. Still I believe anyone has the right to criticize, with facts, a published book. My facts are that I can't find the reference Noel used to justify his coments about Princess Alice's pregnancy. He claims he got his material from Alice's letters and gives a book reference. BUT there is no page number with his reference. I can't find his material. Greg King uses the same reference for his comments about Alice's pregnancy.

This would all blow over if you or Greg or anyone interested would simply give me the referenced page from Princess Alice's letters, where Greg and Noel got their material, and my appology would be forthcoming ASAP.

If not then I have to wait for my books from the library.JonC.