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It is my opinion...
« on: August 29, 2009, 10:12:36 PM »
...that anyone who intends to write anything about Alexandra Feodorovna, or Nicholas II for that matter, must read, as a prerequisite, Joseph Fuhrmann's book "The Complete Wartime Correspondence of Tsar Nicholas II and the Empress Alexandra."

I'm convinced anyone would come through reading that with a different perspective.  Not the opposite of what they started with, maybe, but deeper.  It's too bad they don't teach from this book in high-school history, as part of the section on the Russian Revolution.

I've read far too much now (and I haven't really read all that much in comparison with some of you!) that just paints everyone involved with such a broad brush.  Reiterating all the same old garbage that was always believed.

Again, though, that's just my opinion.

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Re: It is my opinion...
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2009, 12:39:49 AM »
The bad thing, though, is that it is hard to buy. And if I do find it, it's very expensive. :(

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Re: It is my opinion...
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2009, 06:03:01 AM »
If I may ask historyfan: What did you discover by reading the Complete Wartime Correspondence by Joseph Fuhrmann, what you could not find in other books?

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Re: It is my opinion...
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2009, 07:39:44 AM »
The bad thing, though, is that it is hard to buy. And if I do find it, it's very expensive. :(

It seems to be back in print:

http://www.greenwood.com/catalog/GR0511.aspx

Still expensive, though. (Always has been -- 10 years ago the cover price was $125)

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Re: It is my opinion...
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2009, 11:01:45 AM »
ummm, MUCH of the wartime letters are up on the main APTM for free......I admit not complete, but still.

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Re: It is my opinion...
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2009, 04:18:34 PM »
Nice! How long has that been up? (Don't tell me I've been missing it all this time...)

Direct links:
Nicholas's letters
Alexandra's letters


For the sake of comparison for anyone considering purchase of CWC:
1914 letters and telegrams on the APTM - 79
1914 letters and telegrams in CWC - 134

Jan-Sept 1915 letters and telegrams on the APTM - 210
Jan-Sept 1915 letters and telegrams in CWC - 368

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Re: It is my opinion...
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2009, 05:32:18 PM »
I was lucky enough to find that in my library.

It's an okay book, but I'm more interested in the private lives of the IF. I find N&A talking about the war boring, unless Alix is talking about her patients at the hospital. That's sort of interesting.

Good to know it's back in print, though.

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Re: It is my opinion...
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2009, 06:00:51 PM »
Why buy anything if you can get it online for free without complications?  I love this site:  there are so many books I don't have to buy on my reading list here!

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Re: It is my opinion...
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2009, 08:49:37 PM »
Well, all right, if you want to be technical ; ) ...you don't have to read "the book", online is sufficient. 

Reading Alexandra's letters (in their complete form) contradict much of what is said about her.  Griffh has covered it far more extensively than I ever could in his "Empress Alexandra Fights Back" threads, so I just say that perhaps people would not  be so quick to accuse her of things like being Rasputin's lover, or "making" Nicholas change ministers, or being a German spy.

Teddy, to answer your question, reading the complete letters is invaluable.  So many times we read bits and parts, often in context of someone else's statement or point of view, and when you read the whole thing, you understand what she was "really" saying.  I believe that if someone is going to write a book or article about someone like the Empress who is so maligned and misunderstood, using a reference such as this will offer insight like nothing else into the actual person.  Even their diaries are insufficient, since they used them to record facts, not emotion, which makes them seem cold and uncaring, even inhumane.


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Re: It is my opinion...
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2009, 05:50:52 PM »
I don't know if I want to read any of their letters.  Call me immature, but I kind of can't stand all the mushy-ness.  From what little of them, I get the picture: two people deeper in love than anyone I know.  That stuff isn't exactly tween-friendly, so I'll wait until I start dating.

I wish I could meet Alexandra so we could have a writing competition!  That would be the awesomest thing ever (but life is filled with precluded possibilities and dreams that won't come true).

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Re: It is my opinion...
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2009, 09:45:07 PM »
I don't know if I want to read any of their letters.  Call me immature, but I kind of can't stand all the mushy-ness.  From what little of them, I get the picture: two people deeper in love than anyone I know.  That stuff isn't exactly tween-friendly, so I'll wait until I start dating.

Yeah, I understand - that stuff's not for everyone.  lol 

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Re: It is my opinion...
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2009, 03:33:24 PM »
ummm, MUCH of the wartime letters are up on the main APTM for free......I admit not complete, but still.

Nevertheless I think the book is particularly valuable for its annotations and commentary.

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Re: It is my opinion...
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2009, 03:42:09 PM »
Thank you Historyfan for telling your point of view.