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Re: Family of Ernst August of Hannover & Thyra of Denmark
« Reply #300 on: December 10, 2012, 04:19:35 PM »
The first one is out of print, but maybe reprinted by another publisher. The second I might sell you a copy. Both Picture books.

I have been to Vienna & Gmunden where Thyra lived. The Cumberland Palais is now a music school, but quite large. Thyra was a favorite of Francis Josef who chose her to open the Winter Ball if Sisi was out of town.

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Re: Family of Ernst August of Hannover & Thyra of Denmark
« Reply #301 on: December 11, 2012, 08:58:23 AM »
If you make me a good price I'll take it.

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Re: Family of Ernst August of Hannover & Thyra of Denmark
« Reply #302 on: December 11, 2012, 04:04:13 PM »
I will.

The Gmunden big house is now a hospital, but the small house (Queen Marie's widow cottage) is still owned byu the family and Princess Caroline and her daughter Alexandra sometimes stay there in the Summer.

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Re: Family of Ernst August of Hannover & Thyra of Denmark
« Reply #303 on: February 23, 2013, 07:30:06 AM »
Olga of Hannover in 1920 :

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Re: Family of Ernst August of Hannover & Thyra of Denmark
« Reply #304 on: February 23, 2013, 01:15:11 PM »
Olga was the one who did not marry. I wonder if she could not find anybody or she was not into marriage. Kaiser Wilhelm II wanted to wed her to one of his sons.

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Re: Family of Ernst August of Hannover & Thyra of Denmark
« Reply #305 on: March 06, 2013, 04:48:42 PM »
A bio of the three princesses. With some photos too.


I thought you would do a whole bio with Thyra. It has been so much written about Alexandra and Dagmar...

Maybe it could be along the lines of Ilana's Four Graces. It dealt with Alix and Ella but had a larger focus on Victoria and Irene. I would love to read more about Thyra. There is so much drama there as well as rumor. Plus, just some things that I'd be curious to read about myself.

*Did she or did she not (conclusively) have an illegitimate child
*Having a court in exile as a de facto Crown Princess of Hanover and her place in the Austrian Court
*Rumors of mental breakdowns in the 1880s and 1890s
*The only one of the siblings not on the Allied side in WW1 and her feelings about the war and its aftermath
*Loss of 2 children--to illness and accident
*Her feelings about being the 'ugly duckling' of the sisters
*Dealing with the difficult Ernst August
*Her affectionate relationship, even after WW1, with her nephew George V
*Her famiily's reconciliation with Wilhelm II and bringing his daughter in as the wife of her only surviving son
*Her own spinster daughter Olga

I just don't know how much source material (ala Irene) there is on her individually. Of course, more has emerged on Alexandra and Marie from the Danish and Russian archives, so who knows.

Associated with bullet point #1, it would surely be interesting to know her feelings/attitudes/traumas when her lover was "done in" by the powers in the monarchy.
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Re: Family of Ernst August of Hannover & Thyra of Denmark
« Reply #306 on: March 06, 2013, 07:33:36 PM »
Not easy to get, but maybe  if such letters still exist. Pretty sure the Hanoverian side do not have it. Maybe ones to her mother.

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Re: Family of Ernst August of Hannover & Thyra of Denmark
« Reply #307 on: March 07, 2013, 08:41:48 PM »
Not easy to get, but maybe  if such letters still exist. Pretty sure the Hanoverian side do not have it. Maybe ones to her mother.

anything she would have written to suggest or make accusation that her lover was mistreated and/or driven or forced to commit suicide (or murdered) would have been destroyed long ago.

I'd love to have Princess Diana around to comment on this one.
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Re: Family of Ernst August of Hannover & Thyra of Denmark
« Reply #308 on: March 10, 2013, 01:23:59 AM »
not sure about that. The letters of Prince Waldemar survived under lock and key by the present Queen. He was very close to Thyra in her twilight years.

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Re: Family of Ernst August of Hannover & Thyra of Denmark
« Reply #309 on: September 19, 2013, 01:15:09 PM »
In the photo collection of Duchess Wera Konstantinowna of Württemberg, this photo is labeled as one of her daughters Elsa & Olga, but I think it shows Princess Thyra of Denmark, Duchess of Cumberland

https://www2.landesarchiv-bw.de/ofs21/bild_zoom/zoom.php?bestand=5614&id=3442416&gewaehlteSeite=01_0000512765_0002_1-512765-2.jpg&ausgangspunkt=thumbnails&groesseThumbnails=150&thumbnailsProSeite=5&screenbreite=1440&screenhoehe=870

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Re: Family of Ernst August of Hannover & Thyra of Denmark
« Reply #310 on: September 19, 2013, 10:04:41 PM »
Indeed, thats Thyra ;)

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Re: Family of Ernst August of Hannover & Thyra of Denmark
« Reply #311 on: September 19, 2013, 10:24:24 PM »
She looked surprised in the picture. :-)

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Re: Family of Ernst August of Hannover & Thyra of Denmark
« Reply #312 on: October 14, 2013, 05:45:09 AM »
Not a very good portrait picture of Thyra:


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Re: Family of Ernst August of Hannover & Thyra of Denmark
« Reply #313 on: October 14, 2013, 09:04:32 AM »
To me, she looks about as good as a person could given her level of anger, demons, and bitterness.
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Re: Family of Ernst August of Hannover & Thyra of Denmark
« Reply #314 on: October 14, 2013, 09:39:22 AM »
She did not let those stole her sweetness of character unlike her sister Dagmar who did.