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Offline Laura Mabee

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Re: NAOTMAA - Their Contributions to Russia
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2005, 02:33:22 PM »
Thank you for posting those pictures Daniel! I've not seen some of those before. The second picture that you post (the one with the wagon) I believe is the empress herself. At least to me it looks like it.

Thank you again!!

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« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2005, 03:08:30 PM »
one picture of 1914

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/clairecher/Crimee14fetedesfleurs.jpg

I have the one Ortino spoke about, but can not post it.
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« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2005, 01:13:13 AM »

here's another one!

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« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2005, 08:14:41 PM »
The one that Baby_Tsarevitch posted is the one that I was referring to earlier.
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« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2005, 08:38:44 PM »
o right. it kind of looks like anastasia changed her hair stye, and looks a bit older.

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« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2005, 10:23:02 PM »
Laura: yes, it’s indeed the Empress in the wagon. She can be seen in the same poney-drawn wagon on other photos from the Crimea (not taken at the Flower Festival). It looks as though she used it to travel around Livadia and Yalta.

According to a book I have, Matushka’s first photo was taken at the Livadia palace garage. A rarely seen place. I wonder if it still stands?

I had never seen Baby Tsarevich’s photo. Based on the girls’ dresses and Alexis’ height, it’s obvious to me that it was taken in 1914. Interesting to see what a two year difference can make!

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« Reply #36 on: July 12, 2005, 01:09:39 AM »
you mean the picture I posted was taken two years after all the other ones? sorry if I'm wrong :-/

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« Reply #37 on: July 12, 2005, 10:12:55 PM »
Yes, I mean that it seems the photo you’ve posted was taken in April 1914, two years after the first ones posted on this thread, by Clockworkgirl21 (1st, 2nd, 3rd photo), that were taken in April 1912. The 1st one I have posted is from 1912 too but my 2 others (Alexis standing with his mother in a wagon) were apparently taken in 1914, obviously on the same day as the one you’ve posted. Compare them and you’ll see that the girls’ dresses and hats are different, that they do look more mature and Alexis somewhat taller.

Precisely dating Romanov photos isn’t easy. Books are often vague or wrong. It often requires some research and looking at details…something like detective work really!

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« Reply #38 on: July 13, 2005, 01:33:06 AM »
I see the diffrence now, but if no one had told me that those were taken in diffrent years, I would still thought they were from the same year!

Anastasia and Marie changed very much in those two years! :)

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« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2005, 09:02:46 AM »
Monsieur Briere, could you tell us what was the protocol of the Festival, what people do for this feast. An other question, also to Hikaru: I read once again the Nicolas`diary for 19 april 1914 and see nothing about this. Went for a long walk with suit, afternoon all played tennis. Was the festival only in the morning? The Tsar was not in place, as suggested the photos (I never saw a photograph of the festival with him)? What tell us the film? And last, where can I find this film?

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« Reply #40 on: July 16, 2005, 10:24:19 AM »
Didn't the Flower Festival go all day...until tea...about 5-ish?...It must have been dead exciting...if exhausting...for all involved. This was the one chance for most Russians to meet the Empress and her children...face-to-face. I've alles had the funny feeling that some poor souls must have gone slightly "nuts" in the situation...Buying all the flower pins and doilies... :o

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« Reply #41 on: July 16, 2005, 10:44:44 AM »
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Monsieur Briere, could you tell us what was the protocol of the Festival, what people do for this feast. An other question, also to Hikaru: I read once again the Nicolas`diary for 19 april 1914 and see nothing about this. Went for a long walk with suit, afternoon all played tennis. Was the festival only in the morning? The Tsar was not in place, as suggested the photos (I never saw a photograph of the festival with him)? What tell us the film? And last, where can I find this film?


19 of april is on my b-day  ;D there is a film of this event? i never knew that. yeah i dont understand why nicky wouldn't be there.

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Re: NAOTMAA - Their Contributions to Russia
« Reply #42 on: July 16, 2005, 11:34:11 AM »
The reason you can't find it for April 19 is that in 1914 the White flower Festival was held on May 11!
Alexandra had a large booth herself, and each GD had their own booth.  Nicholas was there all day.  This was the day that Alexei bought a chance to grab a prize blind out of a barrel and managed to grab a bottle of champagne.  He proudly carried it around all day and he and Derevenko spent the whole day quarrelling because Alexei wanted to drink his champagne and Derevenko wouldn't let him.

Oh, and the reason there was not one in 1913 is that the IF stayed in Petersburg that spring for the Tercentenary celebrations.
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« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2005, 01:32:47 PM »
In the catalogue the "Toys of the Tsar's children"
there is a photo signed by them with the date : 19th April of 1914.

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« Reply #44 on: July 16, 2005, 01:57:45 PM »
Dear Forum Administrator, thank you for your answer. I know these photographs. I know also that there was a big "bazar" as the Family called it, I read this entry of the diary, read the story about champaign in Eugenie de Grece. But it seems that the dresses are not the same (see the ceinture and other details). Is that me? And there is this date on the photo, Hikaru talled about. So I think that the question stay opened...