How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?

[WhiteEagle]

BorbonFan,

Thanks for asking me for some of the Catholic prophecies.  Here is a sampling of them:

War in Europe:

"A great multitude of people will lose their lives in those calamitous times, but the wicked will not prevail.  They will indeed attempt to destroy the whole Church, but not enough time will be allowed them, because the frightful crisis will be of short duration . .  . During this revolution, which will very likely be general and not confined to France, Paris will be destroyed so completely that twenty years afterwards fathers walking over its ruins with their children will be asked by them what kind of place that was; to whom they will answer: 'My child, this was a great city which God destroyed on account of her crimes.'" - Fr. Nectou.

"When everyone thinks that peace is assured, when everyone leasts expects it, the great happenings will begin.  Revolution will break out in Italy almost at the same time as in France.  For some time the Church will be without a Pope.  England, too, will have much to suffer" - Ecstatic of Tours.

"France shall fall into a frightful anarchy.  The French shall have a desperate civil war in the course of which old men themselves will take up arms" - Blessed Anna Maria Taigi.

"God will permit a great evil against His Church:  Heretics and tyrants will come suddenly and unexpectedly; they will break into the Church while bishops, prelates, and priests are asleep.  They will enter Italy and lay Rome waste; they will burn down the churches and destroy everything" - Ven. Bartholomew Holzhauser.

"This most unhappy war will end, when an emperor of Spanish origin will be elected who will in a wonderful manner be victorious through the sign of the Cross . . . He will restore the Church in Santa Sophia (in Constantinople), and all the earth shall enjoy peace and prosperity; and new cities will be erected in many places" - St. Bridget of Sweden.

"A knight shall come from the West.  He shall capture Milan, Lombardy, and the three Crowns.  He shall then sail to Cyprus and Famagoste and land at Jaffa, and reach Christ's grave where he will fight.  Wars and wonders shall befall till the people believe in Christ toward the end of the world" - St. Thomas a'Becket.

"The Powerful Monarch, who will be sent by God, will uproot every Republic.  He will submit everything to his authority, and he will show great zeal for the true Church of Christ.  The empire of the Mohammedans will be broken up, and this Monarch will reign in the East as well as in the West" - Ven. Bartholomew Holzhauser.

"Peace will return to the world when the White Flower again takes possession of the throne of France.  During this period of peace, people will be forbidden to carry weapons, and iron will be used only for making agricultural implements and tools.  Also during this period, the land will be very productive, and many Jews, heathens, and heretics will join the Church" - St. Hildegard.

"One of your posterity shall achieve greater deeds and work great wonders than your lordship.  That man will be a great sinner in his youth, but like St. Paul he shall be drawn and converted to God" - St. Francis of Paula to Simeon de Limena, Count of Montalto.

The coming Eighth Ecumenical Council:

"I saw in God's essence a numerous assembly of ministers of the Church, who like an army in battle array, and like a firm and unflinching column, shall sustain the rights of the church and of her Head, and shall restore its ancient discipline" - Sr. Jeanne le Royer (Sister of the Nativity).

"The Council will define the true sense of Holy Scripture, and this be believed and accepted by everyone" - Ven. Holzhauser.

These prophecies don't predict the coming of the Moselms, by name.  However, it is easy to reason that the "heretics", "tyrants", "enemies of Christ", who will burn churches and kill priests and religious are fanatical Moslems.  Nobody else, including militant secularists, would do that.  As I stated earlier, these prophecies are only a sampling of Catholic prophecy.  Other themes unmentioned are the arrival of a "Great Pope" who will assist the Great Monarch in the religious realm, the invasion and defeat of a Russian army in Western Europe, the universal scope of civil war and God-given chastisement, and the three days of darkness at the end of the Chastisement.  Excluding the "Great Pope" figure, I'd say the Catholic and Orthodox prophecies fit quite well together.   

God bless!

Adam     




 

[BorbonFan]

"A great multitude of people will lose their lives in those calamitous times, but the wicked will not prevail.  They will indeed attempt to destroy the whole Church, but not enough time will be allowed them, because the frightful crisis will be of short duration . .  . During this revolution, which will very likely be general and not confined to France, Paris will be destroyed so completely that twenty years afterwards fathers walking over its ruins with their children will be asked by them what kind of place that was; to whom they will answer: 'My child, this was a great city which God destroyed on account of her crimes.'" - Fr. Nectou.

"This most unhappy war will end, when an emperor of Spanish origin will be elected who will in a wonderful manner be victorious through the sign of the Cross . . . He will restore the Church in Santa Sophia (in Constantinople), and all the earth shall enjoy peace and prosperity; and new cities will be erected in many places" - St. Bridget of Sweden.

Thank you very much, Adam. It is truly amazing to see that the Catholic prophecies concur so well with the Orthodox ones. In particular, that of St. Bridget of Sweden, announcing the King of Spain as liberator of Byzantium in a "wonderful manner" - through God's divine intervention - "through the sign of the Cross"! It surely must be the next King of Spain "Philippe VI", as St. Methodius and other Orthodox hermits and anonymous saints have seen in their divine visions!

Also, it is amazing to see St. Seraphim's prophecy concerning France and Paris confirmed by Fr. Nectou.  Who was this Father, Adam? Did he lead a saintly life? Is he canonized or at least beatified yet?

Thank you again and God bless!
Borbon Fan

PS: I am starting to translate St. Methodius' prophecy into English.

[WhiteEagle]

BorbonFan,

You're welcome.  I am also impressed as to how the Orthodox and Catholic prophecies relate to each other. 

Fr. Nectou was a Jesuit who resided in southwestern France in the mid-18th century.  According to all who knew him, he lived a simple and holy life.  Several witnesses attest that he raised an infant from the dead.  He was especially gifted with the charism of prophecy.  He prophesied the coming of the French Revolution, the suppression of the Jesuit order by the Pope in 1773, and the coming Moslem conflict in Europe.  He died in 1777, btw.  He hasn't been officially recognized by the Catholic Church, as far as I know.

Thanks for starting on the translation of St. Methodius' prophecy.  I relish gaining this insight from Orthodox prophecy.  Thanks! 

God bless.

Adam 

         

[Bach]

When did this forum become a prophecy board for religious zealotry?  I must have missed that memo.

This thread, from its title, is about whether Russia will again become a monarchy.

Speaking as someone who has had extensive dealings with Russia-based financiers, I can say that the Russians I know - not the religious abroad who appear to be as lost in dogma as the late Alix was - the chance of restoration is zero.  The Royal family, if considered at all, are mocked for their pretensions.  It's a source of amusement in many cases.   I'm not saying that their mean-spiritedness is appropriate, but these are those in positions of power.  Highly unlikely that they will cede that power to the tattered and watered down remnants of pretenders.

Facts.  Not fantasies.

Perhaps you should start a new thread that is appropriately titled, something like "Religous Prophecy in Support of Restoration."

[Robert_Hall]

I agree Bach. This thread has lost any relevancy to the topic.
 I have the same impression as you from my visits to Russia and meeting people the Russians who live there.  The Romanovs are nothing more than a tourist attraction [cash] and not taken seriously by most people.

[Belochka]

Highly unlikely that they will cede that power to the tattered and watered down remnants of pretenders.

Of the Russian ciitizens with whom I had an opportunity to ask this question recently in Moscow and St.P., not one entertained the idea of returning a system of government which was destroyed almost a century ago. Many things have changed including the political direction in which the country is now heading.

Official tiared ribbon cutters who will prefer to distinguish themselves inside the confines of vast palaces are not required by a nation that is still finding itself in the global and economic shpere today.

My impression is that it is just a few delusional individuals who live outside of Russia who are the only ones who shout the loudest as to how Russia may need to reform in their eyes. Whilst only a few may choose to listen and dream for what might be recreated again, the majority of Russian citizens, ignore such thoughts in silence and go on with their daily lives. They have far more relevant concerns!

And you know what, they are pleased with President Putin's democratic program of reforms!

[TampaBay]

And you know what, they are pleased with President Putin's democratic program of reforms!

My Russian aquaitances in Tampa say the same thing.  They also state on each occasion we discuss the matters,  "if Russians become unhappy with Putin they will vote him or throw him out of office too"! 

Just like the USA!!! 

TampaBay

[dmitri]

The likelihood of a restoration is about as likely as finding a pig flying backwards. Don't hold your breath.

[Seeker]

Look at this link in consideration of opinions.......http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=4047

[dmitri]

That's a lone voice in the wildnerness. I found no support for monarchy in Russia. It is part of their history. Nicholas II is not remembered with any great fondness as he allowed everything to collapse through incompetent rule.

[Belochka]

That's a lone voice in the wildnerness. I found no support for monarchy in Russia. It is part of their history.

Neither had I.

A monarchy was part of Russia's history but it will never re-emerge in its future.

Margarita

[LisaDavidson]

That's a lone voice in the wildnerness. I found no support for monarchy in Russia. It is part of their history.

Neither had I.

A monarchy was part of Russia's history but it will never re-emerge in its future.

Margarita

While I agree a restoration of the monarchy is very unlikely - in my experience, Never is an awfully big word. We cannot possibly imagine all circumstances which may transpire.

[imperialruss]

 Here l agree , unless you are God nobody can be sure

Stepan

[dmitri]

Ms. Davidson if you go to Russia and do some asking and research you will find that there is absolutely no interest in any form of restoration of monarchy of any kind. If this were to have happened there would be Tsar Vladimir of the House of Putin by now. Even he is not interested. It's not surprising though as he has already established what he wants. He will soon step down as President and hand over to his hand picked successor who has already agreed to appoint him Prime Minister. The Russian Tsarist monarchy is extremely dead and very much buried. It is the past. It's not surprising though as even with rose tinted glasses it was hardly a paradise for most of its inhabitants. The vast majority lived in absolute poverty without adequate education, housing, employment, food or health care. Is it no wonder it is relegated firmly to the past? This year it is 2008. It will not be too long until it is 2017. One wonders which monarchies in world history have been restored by popular vote after nearly 100 years of absence? Perhaps that could be the starting point of a new thread .. Monarchies restored 90 years after their abolition? God won't decide the issue of monarchy in Russia. The people are the only ones who will and they have no interest. After all God didn't save the Tsar as the old anthem stated. 

[imperialruss]

Dmitri,

 Why don't you register a political party and run for the Duma, if your so self assured, you comments are all ways about what the masses think in Russia , why dont you , in three years you could be president !, you must be truly in tune of every bodies Russian mind, don't start on facts or figure, polls are full of holes

Stepan