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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #75 on: January 19, 2008, 08:28:06 PM »
That was most interesting your last comment. Certainly blind Freddie would have done a better job than Yeltsin as President. I wonder whether you know how many starved to death as a result of his disastrous policies? As for the monarchy in Russia how about giving some information in fact about mass demonstrations in favour of restoration. I wish you the best in trying to find such information. Maria certainly has no mass support in Russia. I wonder by the way when you were last there?

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« Reply #76 on: December 28, 2008, 12:23:04 AM »
For many years I have believed The Russian Monarchy would be restored under The Romanov's because of a dream I had one night in early 1980.

In that dream I saw the fall of The Soviet Union and of Communism. Out of the ashes of The Soviet Union and Communism I saw the restroation of The Russian Monarchy and a Romanov Tsar seated on The Imperial Russian Throne. As the dream ended I heard a voice speaking Russian. Even though I don't know a word of Russian, I understood every word the voice was saying. It said, "Mark well these words, for before this century is out there shall again be a Romanov Tsar seated upon The Imperial Russian Throne."

I thought "this century" meant the 20th Century. But now I realize "before this century is out" meant before the end of the thrid century since The Romanov Dynasty came to The Russian Throne. That means either before or in connection with the quarto-centenial, the 400th annaversary in 2013.

Ever since I had that dream now almost 29 years ago, I have felt and said that one day The Russian Monarchy would be restored under The Romanov Dynasty. Whether it comes before or in 2013 or when it comes, I firmly believe there will be a restoration of The Russian Monarchy and of The Romanov Dynasty.

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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #77 on: January 08, 2009, 07:40:46 PM »
Could their be A Valkryie Type coup....sorry  just saw the movie and belive its possible

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« Reply #78 on: January 21, 2009, 05:25:51 PM »
Please excuse me for continuing to talk about my belief about this, but I believe we are very close to the time when it will happen.

I don't know if a sitting US President ever met and had talks with a reigning Tsar of Russia. The only one I can think of might have been Theodore Roosevelt.

But during yesterday's inaugural ceremonies the thought went through my mind at one point, especially if he is re-elected to a second term in 2012, President Barack Obama could be the first sitting US President, at least in a very long time, to meet and have talks with a reigning Tsar of Russia.

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« Reply #79 on: January 22, 2009, 03:51:41 AM »
From friends of mine that were there only recently,inclusive of people within both the Princess Maria circle and of the rest of the family,Princess Maria is treated with the utmost care and her claim is regarded as a valid one.
However,the male Romanovs have a more stronger claim yet do not have heirs, and many are not evenRussian speakers and Orthodox, and have had too many divorces and marriages below there rank.
Ideally a male Romanov would exit who had heirs irrespective of any morganatic marriages, yet unfortunately there doesent.
I too believe in the restoration, as to whom and when I cannot say, but I know that history is cyclical and that one day a constituitional Monarch will be appointed.
He will have Romanov descent, but as to the "purity" and seniorityof his claim I cannot say.

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« Reply #80 on: March 30, 2009, 10:02:24 AM »

However,the male Romanovs have a more stronger claim yet do not have heirs, and many are not evenRussian speakers and Orthodox, and have had too many divorces and marriages below there rank.


Does the Imperial Law say anything about divorce in regards to succession to the throne?

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« Reply #81 on: March 30, 2009, 04:08:58 PM »

However,the male Romanovs have a more stronger claim yet do not have heirs, and many are not evenRussian speakers and Orthodox, and have had too many divorces and marriages below there rank.


Does the Imperial Law say anything about divorce in regards to succession to the throne?

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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #82 on: April 11, 2009, 07:03:19 AM »


With out directly qouting HIH GD Maria the general theme its the   '' will of the people '' how ever this may also evolve from the Duma and Church maybe. l would agree its moslty westerners on this site argueing the issues with a full belly. A majority of Russians are worrying about the next meal, aids --- corruption and jobs and the future of the young.

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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #83 on: April 13, 2009, 04:59:33 PM »


With out directly qouting HIH GD Maria the general theme its the   '' will of the people '' how ever this may also evolve from the Duma and Church maybe. l would agree its moslty westerners on this site argueing the issues with a full belly. A majority of Russians are worrying about the next meal, aids --- corruption and jobs and the future of the young.

And yet, I think that most of us full bellied Westerners would support Russia as a republic or as a monarchy. Grand Duke Michael Alexandrovich's Manifesto was issued over 90 years ago but it still resonates with many who have an interest in the history of Russia. Monarchy, yes, but only if its something that has broad based support among the people of that country - and with the Church and elected officials.

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« Reply #84 on: July 05, 2009, 08:01:13 PM »
3 years ago the then President Putin told an audience that the restoration of the Monarchy was up to the Russian people, but that first, the people need to be educated as to what sort of Monarchy they should have,ie, Constituitinal, similar to the British system.
The Russians have a lot on their plate, but I do believe that soon the Grand Duchess will be given grace and favour apartments in either St.Petesburg and/or Moscow.
 

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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #85 on: July 06, 2009, 08:51:35 AM »
Surely it would be far more likely that Putin was installed as the Tsar than any Romanov!!  Bizarrely it would probably be happily accepted by the hordes of his impassioned supporters, and possibly spun as a traditional title of ‘father of the nation’, god forbid!
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« Reply #86 on: July 06, 2009, 09:45:26 AM »
IofJ, I think GD Maria has  apartments in the Novodivechy complex, does she not?
 As for Putin, perhaps not as bizarre as one might think; I was reading  today that he is possibly descended from an ancient aristocratic family, older than the Romanovs and more Russian than them- the Putyatins. Quite interesting, I shall follow this report up for sure.
 As for a restoration- there is no throne to restore, and no mechanism to create a new one in the current Russian constitution.

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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #87 on: August 02, 2009, 01:28:55 AM »
IofJ, I think GD Maria has apartments in the Novodivechy complex, does she not?
 As for Putin, perhaps not as bizarre as one might think; I was reading today that he is possibly descended from an ancient aristocratic family, older than the Romanovs and more Russian than them- the Putyatins. Quite interesting, I shall follow this report up for sure.
 As for a restoration- there is no throne to restore, and no mechanism to create a new one in the current Russian constitution.

Most constitutions have some mechanism for change, even structural changes, so I respectfully disagree on that point. No throne to restore? That's debatable. The Russian empire is no more, but there could still be a Tsar.

Now, mind you, I consider a monarchy to be an unlikely political change for Russia, but not because there's no way to achieve it with the constitution.

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« Reply #88 on: August 02, 2009, 07:37:08 AM »
Well, Lisa, have you read the Russian Constitution? Of particular interest are chapters 9 & 16. [article 137, I think it is] Russia is an inviolable democratic REPUBLIC! There is no provision for change in this.  So, a monarchy is not only unlikely, but also illegal. Of course, I suppose a dictator could scrap  it and put up another system, but that would take a lot of work and major support. That is decidedly lacking. Even Putin recognises this.
 And, as for a throne. a throne of what? Russia is a federation of republics, each would have to change to have the same "monarch".
  Also "tsar" is reduntant. Peter abolished the title in 1725.  It no longer valid, has not been since then.
 Even if all these objections were to be overcome, and the semantics  eliminated,  who would the next soveriegn be? The Romanovs came were ELECTED by consensus in 1613. Any  new monarch of any sort would have to be by the same entrance. In my opinion.

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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #89 on: November 04, 2009, 09:53:59 PM »
Its up to the people of Russia, ultimately.

One might also comment that even if this were to happen....and there is so much to shift through in regards to whom, how, when, where and why....
that the English Royal family would be the best to decide whom, and in partnership with them to ensure stability, for the russian people and their children, and that of the future path of humanity.
God knows they have been through so much. Having said that its certainly taught them much too.

Anyone who has read the Gulag can understand just how strong Russians are.

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