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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #120 on: October 11, 2010, 10:10:08 PM »
It's been a long time since i was last interested in this topic but I think Prince Michael of Kent will make a good tsar. I know it's a long stretch and I'm not a really huge fan of the Kents but he is a well-known figure in Russia, speaks fluent Russian, and has many charities there (and business interests). I know many folks would like GD Maria to be the Empress but she doesn't strike me as regal. Just my opinion. Anyway I don't know if Russia will ever agree to reinstating the monarchy- they seem to be fine with just Putin and Medvedev. How are things over there by the way? I know in the 1990s things were real bad...hopefully things are better now. At least on TV they make it seem that way.

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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #121 on: October 31, 2010, 05:01:23 PM »
It would be nice to see the Romanov's rightfully restored to the throne of Russia.  Of course, it would be a Constitutional Monarchy, like Britain, of course.
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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #122 on: October 31, 2010, 07:09:33 PM »
It would be nice to see the Romanov's rightfully restored to the throne of Russia.  Of course, it would be a Constitutional Monarchy, like Britain, of course.

Why should the present Romanov Family have precedence or seek reward today?

Do not forget that three former Grand Dukes publicly rejected their monarch on March 1, 1917 by co-signing a document that was submitted to the Duma Committee, days before the Provisional Government came to power.

Other members of the Family promptly followed suit, including Elizaveta Fyodorovna.

[Ref: "The Murder of Grigorii Rasputin: A Conspiracy That Brought Down the Russian Empire", by Margarita Nelipa, pp 409-410 and p 426]



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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #123 on: October 31, 2010, 09:16:14 PM »
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Why should the present Romanov Family have precedence or seek reward today?
Largely in the name of historical continuity, in my view anyway. It would be better to put a Romanov on the throne than to have to decide on another family.
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Do not forget that three former Grand Dukes publicly rejected their monarch on March 1, 1917 by co-signing a document that was submitted to the Duma Committee, days before the Provisional Government came to power.
I never understood why some people insist on bringing this up. The Romanov succession since the dynasties founding was incredibly manipulative with legitimate heirs being outright murdered. Tsar Ivan VI was overthrow in a coup by his own sister, the Empress Elizabeth, and eventually killed. Should we disqualify all the Romanov's that followed him as illegitimate based on the acts of Elizabeth?

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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #124 on: October 31, 2010, 11:34:02 PM »
Largely in the name of historical continuity, in my view anyway. It would be better to put a Romanov on the throne than to have to decide on another family.

Any consideration for the emergence of a monarch on the political landscape, IMO is no longer a feasible option for Russia today or in her future.

I never understood why some people insist on bringing this up. The Romanov succession since the dynasties founding was incredibly manipulative with legitimate heirs being outright murdered. Tsar Ivan VI was overthrow in a coup by his own sister, the Empress Elizabeth, and eventually killed. Should we disqualify all the Romanov's that followed him as illegitimate based on the acts of Elizabeth?

The simple truth is that Grand Duke Kirill disqualified himself and willingly gave legal effect to his decision.

Therfore what ever he did after the fact in a foreign jurisdiction can only be described as frivolous.
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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #125 on: November 01, 2010, 10:15:10 AM »
Yeah, the Romanovs are part of Russia, it would be nice to see them get the throne back (as I said above, it would be a Constitutional Monarchy).  That would be the final nail in the coffin of the monster known as the Soviet Union.
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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #126 on: November 01, 2010, 07:29:40 PM »
It will take generations for Russia to recover from being ruled by a group of criminasl for 70+ years. While some Romanov descendants are slowly making their way back to Mother Russia, I tend to agree with Belochka that monarchy is simply not feasible for Russia politically right now.

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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #127 on: November 02, 2010, 11:50:08 AM »
Well, that's kind of nice to know.  It's time for the Romanovs to come home :)
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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #128 on: October 31, 2018, 05:47:03 PM »
The sovereign Imperial House of Russia is sadly de iure extinct. Grand Duchess Maria of Russia has the strongest support for her claim out of the three present pretenders to the Russian throne. I do think we cannot see a restoration of monarchy in Russia in the near future but if the Russian people want to return back to monarchy Grand Duchess Maria of Russia would as it seems at the moment be ready and willing to take up that defunct Imperial throne.

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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #129 on: November 01, 2018, 10:51:05 AM »
From time to time since 2010 I track the possibility of a restoration of the monarchy in Russia and have some interesting news to report.  In 2010, general support for a restoration was roughly 28%.  In just three years that figure climbed to 33%, where it stands today.   According to an Izvestia poll in 2017, support among the young is 37%.  These are not insubstantial percentages.

Suprisingly, there is a Monarchist Party in Russia, registered and licensed in 2012 and currently with 47 branch offices scattered throughout Russia.  Add to this a resurgence of interest in Russia in the former Imperial family, and Romanovs routinely traveling to Russia to participate in official State ceremonies.  None of this would have been imaginable until fairly recently - certainly not before 1991.

Given the above, restoration of monarchy in Russia within our lifetimes is not beyond the realm of possibility.  And Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna has made it quite clear, in interviews and in writings, that she stands ready to take the throne should a restoration come about, but only by popular referendum.

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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #130 on: December 03, 2018, 10:05:39 AM »
Unless Putin installs himself as Tsar first.
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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #131 on: December 10, 2018, 03:23:32 AM »
I  do wonder about this subject as well. It seems there are many different layers to be worked out.

Not only in terms of what do the Russian People themselves want (and even getting true and clear voting that hasn't been tampered with), but also, its good to ask questions about why.

1. Why would having a constitutional monarchy be good for Russia and her peoples?

2. Then there are also the other aspects that at this point in time, go hand in hand with statesmanship, like how would the Russian Orthodoxy, Federal Security Service and the Foreign Intelligent Service react to such a different era being brought in. What sort of issues may be faced, and would they all work together to truly honour Russia and her peoples.

3. Would such a new era bring stability in terms of currency, trade, strengthen diplomatic relations and family relations throughout Europe or would it destabilise it.
Again what sort of issues may be faced.

4. The Romanov family still seem very divided on many issues, this is not a good thing. Remembering that saying: Together we stand, divided we fall.

5. One must never forget what happened to the Late Imperial Family. It shows just what can happen when circumstances and people are not happy and in alignment as a whole.

6. Absolute power brings absolute corruption. Be mindful of what this actually means.

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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #132 on: December 26, 2018, 05:42:10 PM »
In the 14 Dec 2018 issue of the Wall Street journal there is an article about making Putin Tsar!? and people who want Russia to be a monarchy.

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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #133 on: February 11, 2019, 04:59:51 AM »
A short while ago I read that Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna Romanova would like the rules of accession altered so that her son Michael can marry for love.
Who is the authority that she could appeal to?
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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #134 on: February 11, 2019, 06:26:43 AM »
Correction. I wasn't able to modify my above post. Grand Duchess Maria's son is George.