Ludwig II

[dmitri]

There is no evidence whatsoever that Ludwig II was mentally ill. In fact his so-called Doctors never in fact examined him before declaring him incapable of exercising his duties as King of Bavaria due to insanity. The Wittelsbach family were concerned that he was going through their private family finances. He never bankrupted the Bavarian State. He was receiving monies from the Lizard fund set up by Bismarck from the stolen monies from the former Kingdom of Hannover.

[dmitri]

Burg didn't need to prove he was not mad as he was perfectly sane.

[Byron]

Burg is a woman, right.

maybe there is the answer.

[Byron]

The answer, I think, is to find in this sentence "he had ruined the Bavarian State finances with his building fanaticism" and he did do just that, that is never a popular thing to do with any government.

[dmitri]

Where did he ever use Bavarian state money for his buildings? There is no evidence to support this. He used private Wittlesbach monies. They were not the same thing as money from the Bavarian treasury.

[dmitri]

What has being a woman got to do with being a historian? There are many female historians who are excellent.

[Byron]

They just work in a different way than men, therefore they often see things in another light. 

[Byron]

There are dokuments in the archieves to support that, sorry. 

[dmitri]

I find her books quite good. Have you read the one on Kaiserin Elisabeth his cousin?

[dmitri]

Yes documents related to the Wittlesbach family monies, not the bavarian treasury.

[Byron]

Look for it and you will find it, it´s all about using your source, I wanted your notion to be true, but it does look a bit bleak. Sorry

[Byron]

I have her book on Ludwig, but never read the book on Sissy.

[dmitri]

I bought both at Neuschwanstein Castle bookshop. They are difficult to obtain elsewhere.

[dmitri]

I have checked countless sources in both English and German and never found any information suggesting that Ludwig bankrupted the Bavarian treasury. In fact he was urged by some to ask the Landtag (the Bavarian Parliament) for a vote of monies from the public purse to cover his debts and he never did. It all came from his private finances and that is what the other Wittlesbachs disliked hence his Uncle Luitpold only being too happy to depose his nephew. This is one of the reasons why Empress Elisabeth loathed him so much. She wrote poetry blaming him for the death of Ludwig. I guess there are some family members who will always commit treasonous acts.

[Byron]

yes, that´s true.