Ludwig II

[Byron]

I realy ought to go there, it´s my favorite royal´s. 

[dmitri]

She writes very well.

[Prince_Christopher]

I have only recently developed an interest in this royal family. 

In reading, I was surprised to find that Empress Maria Alexandrovna of Russia (wife of Alexander II) had at a point after Ludwig's broken engagement, attempted to marry her only daughter, the Grand Duchess Maria Alexandrovna (future Duchess of Edinburgh and Coburg) to Ludwig.  Apparently, the empress could never get an actual proposal out of Ludwig, although he had drawn up plans for a palace in the Russian style to be a wedding gift for the Grand Duchess.

[dmitri]

Maria Alexandrovna gave Ludwig II two beautiful small malachite topped tables as a gift.

[Rani]

Hello everybody!

I really adore the movie "Ludwig II" by Visconti. Now I wonder how the song at the end of the movie (outro) is named or who the artist/componist is.
Could anyone help?

Thank you


Here a picture of Ludwig and Sophie

[MarieCharlotte]

Hello everybody!

I really adore the movie "Ludwig II" by Visconti. Now I wonder how the song at the end of the movie (outro) is named or who the artist/componist is.
Could anyone help?

Thank you


Here a picture of Ludwig and Sophie

Are you really sure that this is Sophie? I rather think that it's Empress Elisabeth.

[ArchDss Louise-Henriette]

Ludwig II of Bavaria in his younger years

[ArchDss Louise-Henriette]

Ludwig's mother,  Mathilde von Bayern

[Alixz]

I just started reading The Swan King - Ludwig II of Bavaria by Christopher McIntosh.

It is not an easy read - Mr. McIntosh is not a great writer.

It appears that Ludwig was too fastidious to have any kind of sexual contact with women.

He was very handsome for his time, but was much more interested in fantasy than reality and would have liked to have lived his life as Lohengrin.

Of course, he adored Richard Wagner and Wagner's music and he funded quite a few of Wager's presentations. 

I am about 1/2 way through the book and so far have not seen any true revelations concerning his sexual preferences.

I find it interesting though that Hitler, too, was a Wagnerian admirer.  Wagner's music must truly stir the German  (or Bavarian or Austrian) soul.

[REMI]

Ludwig's mother,  Mathilde von Bayern

Ludwig's mother was called Maria of Prussia, not Mathilde... Mathilde was Ludwig's aunt, married to Ludwig III, Grand Duke of Hesse and the Rhine.

REMI

[yussupov29]

Hi,

there are so many rumours and conspiracy-theories about the circumstances Ludwig II. died in the Starenberger See.

What do you think about it?


yours jussopov29

[Imperial_Grounds]

Well i've seen the movie, Ludwig II - by Visconti, starring Helmut Berger as King Ludwig II and Romy Schneider as Empress Elisabeth of Austria-Hungary - and that keeps to the official version. Also one of my book stated that shots were heard, and thus it is thought, or guessed should be better, he could have been assassinated too. Yet my opinion is that he just lost it all, as became clear when he got older - and lets not forget, the Wittelsbachs had quite a few members that were a bit odd. Empress Elisabeth of Austria had a strong death-wish and was obsessed with her beauty, and wanted freedom, Archduke Rudolf, Crown Prince of Austria, son of Sisi, also had the wish for freedom and a strong death-wish, much alike is mother. Ludwig's brother went crazy too, to put it like that. Thus I think Ludwig killed himself on purpose, seems to be a plague for the Witlesbachs - the strong death-wish. Anyway, why there are so much conspiracies: Simply because of the shots heared. But I think he just drowned, killing himself on purpose.

[yussupov29]

Well, there are several stories about the shoots. I believe that he drowned by trying to kill himself or escape, too. Still there are some mysterious facts about the death of Dr. von Gudden's death. He was a psychiatrist, who examined the king and looked after him in Schloß Berg where the king was arrested.


It's true, there were other people in the family witn mental disfunction. His younger brother Otto was kept in Fürstenried castle till the end of his life, because he was insane. 

[Greenowl]

I think that it will remain impossible to reconstruct what took place on the shore of Lake Starnberg that wet Whit Sunday evening. In my opinion, the most likely scenario is that Ludwig II murdered Dr. Gudden by drowning him in the lake as part of a premeditated plan to escape, but the physical effort proved too much for Ludwig, who duly suffered a heart attack and died.

[yussupov29]

That sounds resonable.