Grand Duke Pavel Alexandrovitch,his 1st wife Alexandra & their family

[Kalafrana]

Just to add that Helena Victoria was not an 'English royal princess' (before someone else pulls me up!), but Volkov may not have appreciated that.

All the other royal ladies I can think of who could be called English were either too young (the Connaught girls and Alice of Albany, and probably Alexandra and Beatrice of Edinburgh) or already married.

Ann

[Marc]

Just to add that Helena Victoria was not an 'English royal princess' (before someone else pulls me up!), but Volkov may not have appreciated that.

Yes,she was German Princess living in England,just like Victoria Eugenia von Battenberg...

[bestfriendsgirl]

Two possibilities in terms of age and unmarried state were Victoria of Wales (born 1868) and Helena Victoria of Schleswig-Holstein (born 1870) neither of whom ever married. Victoria's sister Maud may also have been a possibility, as she didn't marry until July 1896.

Ann

I always figured it was Victoria - she was known for being "difficult," although whether she was that way to begin with or became that way because of being her mother's companion I don't know. She was Nicholas II's first crush, but they were first cousins and it cooled into friendship eventually anyway, especially as he became more aware of Alix.

[bestfriendsgirl]

An album of GD Pavel's family.

http://photoarchive.spb.ru:9090/www/showChildObjects.do?object=2517964993&viewMode=H_100747620&language=2

WOW !!! These are great, and the vast majority of them are new to me! Do you think Olga may be pregnant with Vladimir in the full-length one on the first page? She certainly looks it and it was taken in St. Petersburg - the two girls were born in France after they were exiled.

[Kalafrana]

How could I have forgotten that the Coburg girls were Pavel's nieces?

So the only possibilities were Victoria, Maud and Helena Victoria. Everybody else in England was too old, too young or already married.

Ann

[bestfriendsgirl]

How could I have forgotten that the Coburg girls were Pavel's nieces?

Very easily! You need a scorecard to keep up with this family! 

[Clemence]

Was she not beside her mother in the Tuxen painting of the Danish Royal Family?

http://dkks.dk/christian-ix-and-his-family-1886

[grandduchessella]

Yes, that was her. I think there is a thread somewhere on the Forum (a search might bring it up) that gives the identification for the persons in both this Tuxen painting and his painting of Queen Victoria's Jubilee family gathering.

[Carolath Habsburg]

Hi!!

I have a doubt about Gd Pavel s birth date. In the almanach of Gotha online says he was born in october 11 of 1860,

http://www.angelfire.com/realm/gotha/gotha/russia.html


but in wikipedia and other webpages says he was born in october 3 and September 21 in the Jullan calendar.

I d like to know what s the right birth date.

Thanks in advanced!!!

[Ally Kumari]

[Maria Sisi]

Adorable photo of Pavel and Sergei as boys

[Ally Kumari]

[Ally Kumari]

Alexandra

[LisaDavidson]

Carolath Hapsberg - the birthdate from Wikipedia was actually sourced back to the biography of Grand Duke Paul written by Dr. William Lee and me for the book "The Grand Dukes" published in 2010. The date we used was 21 September 1860 old style and 3 October 1860. I'm away from home so don't have either my notes or the book to provide you with our source.