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Re: Martyrdom, Sainthood. Reburial and Commemoration of IF
« Reply #240 on: October 28, 2005, 06:02:20 PM »
O.k Jim lets consider the facts.
1.The last one (as you put it) of the Romanovs was executed with his entire family and buried in a pit.
2.Putins 2nd term expires shortly and he cannot run for President  again unless he manipulates the constituition.
3.He can however run for Prime Minister or any other office.Considering that fact he may want to insert one of his own people as President or perhaps a member of the Romanov Family as head of state thus he becoming the King maker rather than the King.(YOU GETTING MY DRIFT?)
4.Yes the Russian economy is definately in a shambles almost as bad as the American one however they do have lots of natural resources that they can use to restore it.ie oil gold silver grain etc etc (unlike the American one).
5.He is looking at attempting in creating some sort of a defacto trading block for the simple reason that every one else has got one as well and his markets are limited ie Eu,North and South American trading block, A.S.E.A.N. etc.
6.Important to remember that on his southern border he has got 1.6 billion Chinese who are about to become capitalists(they had a mutual military exercise recently didnt they?) and he also has the worlds only Imperial pwer at the moment involved in a war in his backyard  attempting to secure its own source of oil as well!
Looking forward to your reply!

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Re: Martyrdom, Sainthood. Reburial and Commemoration of IF
« Reply #241 on: October 28, 2005, 11:46:12 PM »
The American economy is hardly in shambles. Granted, it's not as good as it has been in the past, but I really don't think we should be compared to Russia's economy. Instead, a better comparison would be that of Russia and say... France, or Romania.

Anyway, it's an interesting idea, restoring a constitutional monarchy in Russia. There would be lots of things to consider, but I think that IF this does happen, the Romanov's won't be the family. That would be a huge headache from the conroversy as to who's legitimate and who's not. Instead, I can see a re-installation of the Ruriks, or maybe another family.

And I agree with one thing, Putin does not want a return to the monarchy... if anything, he wants the return of the Soviet Union, in some form or another.

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Re: Martyrdom, Sainthood. Reburial and Commemoration of IF
« Reply #242 on: October 29, 2005, 02:37:48 AM »
re state symbol of Russia.Putin (I believe) reinstated it!



http://president.kremlin.ru/eng/articles/state_insignia_03.shtml

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Re: Martyrdom, Sainthood. Reburial and Commemoration of IF
« Reply #243 on: November 23, 2005, 07:18:11 PM »
Could anyone please post pictures of icons of the Imperial Family? I have only seen one before, but I know there must be others! Thanks!  :)
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Re: Martyrdom, Sainthood. Reburial and Commemoration of IF
« Reply #244 on: November 23, 2005, 09:02:44 PM »
Go to the 'Having Fun' thread the to 'Icon of Olga'.(It's on the second page.)

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« Reply #245 on: November 23, 2005, 09:27:18 PM »
Here, Holly, it's easier for you:



I am looking for the rest, I saw them somewhere!!

Sofi ;D

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« Reply #246 on: November 23, 2005, 09:42:29 PM »
Here are more, Holly!!



The whole Imperial Family (NAAOTMA)




Alexei, the Tsar, and Tsarina




Tsar Nicholas II




Ella or Alexandra?




Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaievna Romanova




Grand Duchess Tatiana Nikolaievna Romanova




Grand Duchess Maria Nikolaievna Romanova




Grand duchess Anastasia Nikolaievna Romanova
(Holly's favorite!!)





Heir Tsarevich Alexis Nikolaievich Romanov


God Bless Them!!!

Sofi :)



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« Reply #247 on: November 24, 2005, 05:36:30 PM »
Ooo... :o Thanks bunches Sofi! I love that one of Anastasia, it looks so much like her! So does the first on e of Alexei!  :D
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« Reply #248 on: November 24, 2005, 05:54:11 PM »
Your very welcome, sis'!! ;D
I agree, but I think that Marie looks more like Anastasia than she did in real life. Like, Marie looks more like she could be Nastya's twin, along with Nastya on the icon looking sooo much like herself!

Sofi ;)
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« Reply #249 on: November 24, 2005, 07:39:57 PM »
Please escuse my stupidity but why do the crosses look like double crosses? :-[ :-[ ??? ???
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« Reply #250 on: November 24, 2005, 08:41:07 PM »
Your stupidity is excused. ;) ;) ;D
Those are the Russian Orthodox crosses, they are like that.

Sofi :)

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« Reply #251 on: November 25, 2005, 10:14:11 AM »
Hi Sofi,
it's Ella in the one you couldn't identify.
It says Elizaveta on the right.

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« Reply #252 on: November 25, 2005, 10:14:27 AM »
http://www.antipas.org/news/russia/images/RomanovIcon.jpg
Sorry this is the only one I could find.:(
Thanks for telling me-I learn something new every day! ;)

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« Reply #253 on: November 25, 2005, 10:38:36 AM »
Oh, yes!! Thank you, Isa, I can read Cyrillic, but I never thought of actually trying my skills on that one.  ::)
Youre welcome, Anastasia R., I love your siggy.

Sofi ;)

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Re: Martyrdom, Sainthood. Reburial and Commemoration of IF
« Reply #254 on: November 26, 2005, 11:56:07 PM »
Yes, the Russian cross is quite distinctive,
the top cross bar is the sign that was hund saying Jesus of Nazareth King of the Jews, the second, long bar is the part where His hands were nailed to the cross, and the bottom, slanting bar is the footrest, where His feet were nailed.