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Re: Olga's Letters
« Reply #45 on: April 21, 2006, 11:53:59 AM »
I have always been curious who it was addressed to, as it is often quoted, and rightly so. I think that Olga did it express it more eloquently than Nicholas could have, as she had a gift for such things. But, as Nicholas's sentiments, they are certainly interesting and amazing for someone who was in his position. Having Olga express it helped better I think.  But I believe Nicholas had good perspective, judging from these words. It is great words, and a great sentiment.

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« Reply #46 on: April 21, 2006, 11:00:05 PM »
I think that when Olga repeated that her father had said, she made those words HER OWN. She was not a girl any more, and when she quoted her father's words, she knew exactly why. Olga admired Nicholas, and all seems to show that she shared a great deal of his views.

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Re: Olga's Letters
« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2006, 08:55:35 AM »
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I think that when Olga repeated that her father had said, she made those words HER OWN. She was not a girl any more, and when she quoted her father's words, she knew exactly why.
That's certainly possible, but we'll never know for sure, will we? ;)
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Re: Olga's Letters
« Reply #48 on: April 23, 2006, 05:56:06 PM »
You're right, we can never know.

But making a semi-educated guess . . . . Given that Olga shared many of her father's sensibilities, and that at that point she already was showing signs of fatalism, if not depression, in the wake of the year's events, I would say she wrote the words as a way of communicating her father's thoughts--and hers--to the recipient and those who knew the recipient.  

Put yourself in her place. If you had lost so much, been held captive 24/7 by armed men who--if not outright hostile to you and your family, were certainly not your unabashed advocates--and had only pen and paper as a way of communicating with the outside world, what sort of messages would you send? I think it's remarkable that her messages still could contain cheerful elements!

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Re: Olga's Letters
« Reply #49 on: April 23, 2006, 07:23:43 PM »
In all case, Olga HERSELF choose to quote her father's words. Anybody forced her to do so.
That's a fact.

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Re: Olga's Letters
« Reply #50 on: April 24, 2006, 08:49:18 AM »
I agree that she chose to quote them, and that as Nicholas's sentiments, and Olga's words, they are very benovolent considering how it was for them then. They are perhaps sort of last words as well, even if they were not intended as such, they have the ring of them. Forgiving others, and realizing that all the evil doesn't truimph, could never truimph. I think these words also show something of the relationship between Nicholas and Olga as well.

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« Reply #51 on: April 24, 2006, 01:48:00 PM »
I went back to re read the Grand Duchess Olga's letter and came away feeling the same as what RealAnastasia stated. Indeed, Olga was at last her own person, of age, and nobody forced her to do what she did not want to do. She was in charge of her complete thoughts, and actions. Her respect, as well as her love for her father shone the value of his person, by the words she placed in her letter. I believe also she knew her father well, thus making the recipent feel that her father was speaking as well. And that's what I got from her letter also Janet. Her letter was most remarkable !

The closing of course is what captures the heart, when you know it is probably her or his last words, perhaps the family's. I would imagine that for her personally to have written such a letter must have taken all her belief, that if they did not survive, at least her letter would.

"Forgiving others, and realizing that all the evil doesn't truimph, could never truimph"

                    For most of us, we know this to be the truth. Evil Never Triumphs !

Thank goodness that Olga's letter survived, and remains for countless lives to read, now and for all time.

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I agree that she chose to quote them, and that as Nicholas's sentiments, and Olga's words, they are very benovolent considering how it was for them then. They are perhaps sort of last words as well, even if they were not intended as such, they have the ring of them. Forgiving others, and realizing that all the evil doesn't truimph, could never truimph. I think these words also show something of the relationship between Nicholas and Olga as well.
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Re: Olga's Letters
« Reply #52 on: April 24, 2006, 05:03:44 PM »
I agree, that it is great that Olga's letter survives, and that we can read it today, and know the sentiments that are are true today, as much as then.

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Re: Olga's Letters
« Reply #53 on: February 19, 2007, 08:06:44 PM »
I speak french! If you want to, I can translate the ones in french...

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Re: Olga's Letters
« Reply #54 on: February 19, 2007, 10:20:02 PM »
I also can translate the ones in French...Compte sur moi!  ;)

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« Reply #55 on: May 29, 2007, 02:12:19 PM »
Ive just read Olga's letter to Rasputin where she let him into a secret of her love))) she was 15 at that time.

"My beloved, I often think about you and your visits, when you talk with us about God. I miss you very much and I have no one to take them into my  confidence. And I have a lot, a lot of feelings. And I suffers from it a lot. Nicholas drives me crazy. When I enter Sofiesky Cathedral and see him, I could start to climb on a wall, I tremble all over. I love him. I am ready to to fall on his neck. You advised me to be circumspect. But how can I be cautions, if I cant  control myself?
We often visit Anya. Every time I hope to see you there, my beloved friend. If I only could see you as soon as possible at her's and ask advice from you about Nicholas. Pray for me and bless me. I kiss your hand.
Loving you Olga."

it's soo sweet she was SO in love with that guy))

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« Reply #56 on: May 29, 2007, 06:55:37 PM »
I'm sorry she could never know the true love (I mean in a concrete way, not platonic one), and that she never married...Sometimes, I can't help but think that if she would have married some foreign royal, and go living outside Russia, she could have survived her family... :'(

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« Reply #57 on: November 12, 2007, 05:00:19 PM »
Tobolsk, December 5, 1917, addressed to Zénaïde Sergévna Tolstoy, born Bekhteeff (1880-1961), 2 p . Folio. Text in Russian.

You are so good to write to us often expensive Zinotchka. Many thanks for your last postcard and your letter dated November 18, and I received yesterday. I was happy to receive any news. Finally, we learned something Lili, [Lilli Dehne, a friend of the Empress] because she has not written a long time ago. It is true that the small [Kolia Dérévenko, friend of games in the Tsarevich and son of dealing with marine Alexis] (...) is nice? He stayed with us a long time. Surely he told you. Tell G. (...) It (it is better that I did not write) because it does not write. I have written twice to Moscow and once by you, and she sent a single postcard since she lives at home. Voila! These days the winter has set in, minus 16 degrees with the wind, which is unpleasant, but the sun shines in the morning. We are always and for the moment there is nothing new. Tobolsk is a corner lost when the river freezes, the only communication with the rest of the world is the road to Tyumen: over 200 verstes. News reaches us with a great delay, but the letters are received correctly. I wish you every happiness. In the event that the letter would arrive for the 25, I send you my congratulations and the warmest wishes and your husband. To all who remember knowledge, I send my greetings. I embrace you very much and you greenhouse in my arms.

Olga
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Re: Letter
« Reply #58 on: November 13, 2007, 01:44:12 AM »
Is it just me or does anyone else has teary eye when reading the GD´s letters from captivity?

Thank you Alexande64!

Forgive me for prying, but is Russia your native language? I think not, because sometimes the sentences doesn´t make sense to me (and English is not my native language, so I could be wrong...)

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Re: Letter
« Reply #59 on: November 13, 2007, 02:48:08 AM »
You are right the Russian is not my language, but the translations were made by those responsible for the sales, which will take place on November 14, while his you intérése I give you the site address:
http://www.auction.fr/fr/base/diaporama.php?vente=10929&etude=8&passe=